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Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:57 pm

Microsoft wrote:
When you play certain desktop games in Windows 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2, the mouse pointer may freeze or stutter.

This update resolves this issue in the following games:
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops - Multiplayer
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops II
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Zombies
  • Call of Duty: Ghosts - Multiplayer
  • Call of Duty: MW2
  • Call of Duty: MW2 - Multiplayer
  • Call of Duty: MW3
  • Call of Duty: MW3 - Multiplayer
  • Call of Duty: MW
  • Call of Duty: MW - Multiplayer
  • Counter Strike: Global Offensive
  • Counter Strike: Source
  • Deus Ex : Human Revolution
  • Deus Ex : Human Revolution Director's Cut
  • Hitman Absolution
  • Hitman Sniper Challenge
  • Half Life 2
  • Metro 2033
  • Portal
  • Tomb Raider


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:20 pm

Finally our long national nightmare is behind us.

(note: I game with an Xbox 360 controller for games that support it)
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:30 pm

So does this actually affect more games than that, or is it now completely fixed?
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:43 pm

MadManOriginal wrote:
So does this actually affect more games than that, or is it now completely fixed?


Also wondering this before I upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1.
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:07 pm

Doesn't look like it. If you look at the knowledge base article there are also instructions to the the fix for "other games".
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:31 pm

Not all games need the fix. Plenty of titles are unaffected.

Edit: My impression given the listed games, is that only games that offer raw input need the fix. I do believe those games are in the minority.
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:40 pm

Ryu Connor wrote:
Not all games need the fix. Plenty of titles are unaffected.

Edit: My impression given the listed games, is that only games that offer raw input need the fix. I do believe those games are in the minority.

It's the other way around. Games with raw input don't need the fix whereas games that don't may need the fix.

BF4 has raw input for instance and has no problems.
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:42 pm

This isn't a fix, it's a work-around. The prospects of needing to apply it manually to other titles is frustrating.
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:45 pm

ChronoReverse wrote:
It's the other way around. Games with raw input don't need the fix whereas games that don't may need the fix.

BF4 has raw input for instance and has no problems.


Counter-Strike doesn't have raw input? That sounds off.
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:01 pm

CS:S and CS:GO have a toggleable option for raw mouse input, but I don't think it's enabled by default.
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:20 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote:
CS:S and CS:GO have a toggleable option for raw mouse input, but I don't think it's enabled by default.


I'm still having my doubts he's right. It's more likely that BF4 doesn't have an issue because it was built to take advantage of Win8.1.

The hotfix even states,
This issue occurs because Windows 8.1 introduced changes to mouse input processing for low latency interaction scenarios. Therefore, games respond to mouse inputs differently in Windows 8.1 than in previous versions of Windows.


If raw input doesn't count as low latency, I'm not sure what does. Hopefully some more nit and grit detail shows up at some point.
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:47 pm

Ryu Connor wrote:
The hotfix even states,
This issue occurs because Windows 8.1 introduced changes to mouse input processing for low latency interaction scenarios. Therefore, games respond to mouse inputs differently in Windows 8.1 than in previous versions of Windows.


The hotfix ALSO says:

Workaround
If the game provides a raw input option, you can select this option to work around this issue.
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:21 pm

ChronoReverse wrote:
The hotfix ALSO says:

Workaround
If the game provides a raw input option, you can select this option to work around this issue.


Thank you.

That being said I'm left confused. What style of input do my unaffected games use? Pretty sure it's not raw input and based on the article I guess it's not low latency either (whatever they mean by that to begin with). Does that mean there's a normal latency option games use? :P
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:03 am

My fix was to switch my mouse to USB3.0, I know the latency is higher on 3.0 but for me, FOR ME, it works perfectly, but yeah, some strange stuff happened when plugged into a 2.0 slot.
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Re: Windows 8.1 Mouse Fix

Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:09 am

Just got my desktop to take 8.1; apparently messing with drivers and whatnot to get it to boot in RAID mode coming from AHCI resulted in upgrade not taking. I've played BF4 on it without issue, 'RAW Mouse Input' option checked, no issues there. I'll see if I can't boot up something else that might throw it. Any suggestions?
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