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Yeats wrote:derFunkenstein wrote:We don't want him to "end it".If you've thought about ending it, don't delay.
derFunkenstein wrote:I assume this was quoted out of context because you're trying to be funny, but I don't find it particularly so. The whole post was about "get help get help" so obviously I'm saying don't delay getting help. I don't really appreciate being intentionally taken out of context given the serious nature of this thread.
PenGun wrote:I get off my ass, have my Lincoln haul my old body out to the edge of the bush. I get out of the car, strap on my camera and small pack and hit the trail.
Inside of 100' I am at least twice as happy as I was when I hit the ground. A hundred yards gets me another 3 or 4 times happiness. After I get into my stride I am so pleased I start singing stupid little songs and dangle my tripod at weird angles for no reason at all. I love the wilderness and really we all do.
We have only been doing this civilization thing for 10,000 years or so. Before that we were opportunistic scavengers and hunters and have evolved to live in the wilderness. It's what we were born to do, the 10,000 years has actually changed very little in us. Get out of the city and go on home. It does feel good.
Forge wrote:I used to have a really good friend, we called him Twofer. Now we don't. I've never dug too deeply, but he was young to go, and frequently had depression issues.
Captain Ned wrote:Forge wrote:I used to have a really good friend, we called him Twofer. Now we don't. I've never dug too deeply, but he was young to go, and frequently had depression issues.
Forge, thank you for remembering/speaking that name. I was just a user then and I now remember the ripple through the forums at his passing.
To the OP. You have many people here wishing you well and willing to help. Let us.
confusedpenguin wrote:Considering the winter weather, you may be experiencing a vitamin D deficiency.
ronch wrote:Liquidsquid, that view is amazing.
FireGryphon wrote:I read things now and then that explain how our modern world focuses our attention on all things media, lessening our human-to-human contact, which in turn makes us lonely and depressed. Facebook 'friends' are not as helpful to us as real friends. The solution is to favor intimate social relationships to using a computer or cell phone. There's still an amazing world of people, if you make the extra effort to avoid media and look for it.
superjawes wrote:FireGryphon wrote:I read things now and then that explain how our modern world focuses our attention on all things media, lessening our human-to-human contact, which in turn makes us lonely and depressed. Facebook 'friends' are not as helpful to us as real friends. The solution is to favor intimate social relationships to using a computer or cell phone. There's still an amazing world of people, if you make the extra effort to avoid media and look for it.
The internet is weird...I do somewhat agree with "real" human contact versus virtual, but at the same time, this thread is a perfect example of people being brought together over the internet, and that includes international folk.
Just something I find interesting...
Yeats wrote:superjawes wrote:FireGryphon wrote:I read things now and then that explain how our modern world focuses our attention on all things media, lessening our human-to-human contact, which in turn makes us lonely and depressed. Facebook 'friends' are not as helpful to us as real friends. The solution is to favor intimate social relationships to using a computer or cell phone. There's still an amazing world of people, if you make the extra effort to avoid media and look for it.
The internet is weird...I do somewhat agree with "real" human contact versus virtual, but at the same time, this thread is a perfect example of people being brought together over the internet, and that includes international folk.
Just something I find interesting...
I agree. Chances are, if this were a hundred years ago and all of us were sitting in a bar, nobody would even be talking this frankly about depression. It's easier to be open on the Internet.
ronch wrote:Just tried to talk to the wife about it. Shouldn't have. Stupid me.
sluggo wrote:ronch wrote:Just tried to talk to the wife about it. Shouldn't have. Stupid me.
Okay ... just a thought, but if the the person closest to you in your life does not care to hear about your problems, then I think this is something you might want to consider as a potential contributor to your current depressed state.
Granted, your wife may not be a professional in this area, but if her feeling is that this (the depression) is something she didn't sign up for, and your feeling is that this is something that can come along in any marriage (or even between non-marrieds), then there's a very basic conflict. Conflicts like this (particularly where one of the parties may be depressed for other reasons) often get repressed. Repressed conflicts can often lead to poor communication on other levels. And long-term, these are the sorts of things that can lead to further feelings depression and alienation.
Strong feelings of alienation are a common seed for thoughts of suicide. You'll want to connect with others who value your company and insight. You have worth outside the house. If you need a reason to get out of bed in the morning, volunteer at an animal shelter or similar. If your behavior has a pattern, change it. It doesn't matter what you change it to, really, just don't seek pain relief from addictive behaviors. Spend time around children - they think you're interesting even if you don't.
I'm not a professional either, but this sort of analysis is what they do really, really well. Go talk to somebody. If your wife thinks this is a bad idea, then to hell with her. Seriously. She can be with you in this thing or not, but this is more important than a marriage. Sorry to say it, but it is. You definitely want her with you as you work to over come it, but you may have to drag her over to your side.
I emailed my wife a link to an article about depression on the Net and she somewhat sort of got the meaning of what it feels like to be depressed. I guess she's never felt it. As someone who's had a history of the 'melancholies' at an early age (I remember being overly worried about my mom leaving me someday at the age of 12 -- I'm 34 now), this sort of feeling really sucks every time I get it. Speaking of my worries about my mom at age 12, I think it's also related to something they call GAD (Generalized Anxiety Disorder). I guess that's been playing a part too without me really knowing that it's an issue. I usually worry too much, and when the workload piles up, all the stress and anxiety and worrying rob me of what little energy I have left. My wife asked me about seeing a doctor about this, so if we ever do push through with it, something I am inclined to do albeit hesitantly, I might as well bring up my possible history of GAD. It's killing me. It's like a dark cloud is constantly hanging on top of my head, strangling me and raining lots of negativity on me. How I wish I had a switch on my back that I can just throw to make me either happy or repel those negative thoughts.
sluggo wrote:ronch wrote:Just tried to talk to the wife about it. Shouldn't have. Stupid me.
Okay ... just a thought, but if the the person closest to you in your life does not care to hear about your problems, then I think this is something you might want to consider as a potential contributor to your current depressed state.