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emvath79 wrote:Let me preface this to say I'm a bit of a techno dunce in relation to most people on this site, but I enjoy reading and learning.
I'm putting together a pc that I will do some gaming on. I'll get the newest games but probably "only" play at 1080p. I'm looking at the i5 3570k for the processor. My question is this, is the fact that this cpu only has 4 cores going to hinder it in the future if the current consoles are using 8? I realize that the gpu I pick (probably 280x) should outperform what the new consoles have but I'm worried that the new generation of games will be optimized for 8 cores and that when they port to PC my CPU will be lacking. Am I up in the night?
Chrispy_ wrote:A single 3570K core can run three threads sequentially faster than three Jaguar cores can run three threads in parallel.
Intel has nothing to worry about in the CPU arena. AMD have basically admitted defeat and completely given up.
Chrispy_ wrote:A single 3570K core can run three threads sequentially faster than three Jaguar cores can run three threads in parallel.
Intel has nothing to worry about in the CPU arena. AMD have basically admitted defeat and completely given up.
the Lionheart wrote:Chrispy_ wrote:A single 3570K core can run three threads sequentially faster than three Jaguar cores can run three threads in parallel.
Intel has nothing to worry about in the CPU arena. AMD have basically admitted defeat and completely given up.
Well, the chips the new consoles are using are APUs, and APUs more than just X86 CPUs, so your point doesn't hold here...
If well utilized, an APU can put a 8 core Intel CPU to shame in many scenarios including gaming.
Great_Big_Abyss wrote:Chrispy_ wrote:A single 3570K core can run three threads sequentially faster than three Jaguar cores can run three threads in parallel.
Intel has nothing to worry about in the CPU arena. AMD have basically admitted defeat and completely given up.
I want to see some benchmarks backing up that claim!
emvath79 wrote:Let me preface this to say I'm a bit of a techno dunce in relation to most people on this site, but I enjoy reading and learning.
I'm putting together a pc that I will do some gaming on. I'll get the newest games but probably "only" play at 1080p. I'm looking at the i5 3570k for the processor. My question is this, is the fact that this cpu only has 4 cores going to hinder it in the future if the current consoles are using 8? I realize that the gpu I pick (probably 280x) should outperform what the new consoles have but I'm worried that the new generation of games will be optimized for 8 cores and that when they port to PC my CPU will be lacking. Am I up in the night?
Voldenuit wrote:the Lionheart wrote:Chrispy_ wrote:A single 3570K core can run three threads sequentially faster than three Jaguar cores can run three threads in parallel.
Intel has nothing to worry about in the CPU arena. AMD have basically admitted defeat and completely given up.
Well, the chips the new consoles are using are APUs, and APUs more than just X86 CPUs, so your point doesn't hold here...
If well utilized, an APU can put a 8 core Intel CPU to shame in many scenarios including gaming.
Sorry dude, I think you're confused on IPC vs number of cores.
For starters, Kaveri will *not* come with 8 cores, only 4.
Secondly, I doubt very much that Steamroller will still be able to match Ivy Bridge on IPC, let alone Haswell.
To answer the OP, the Jaguar cores in the Xbox/PS4 are very slow and simple CPUs, about on par with the Bay Trail Atoms. They will be completely overmatched by *any* PC desktop CPU from the past 3-4 years.
Also, despite this, game performance is rarely CPU-limited, the 3570K should be overkill for any PC game for a few years to come (although Star Citizen may prove me wrong).
JohnC wrote:"Hinder it"? Well, I would not really use such words, but the future games WILL be more multithreaded and WILL definitely benefit from extra physical cores... Or even logical cores - for example you can definitely see (using appropriate benchmarks) the performance difference when running BF4 on, say, i7-3770 with Hyperthreading enabled and when running it with Hyperthreading disabled. Whether that performance difference is actually worth the price increase is entirely up to you to decide
the Lionheart wrote:Chrispy_ wrote:A single 3570K core can run three threads sequentially faster than three Jaguar cores can run three threads in parallel.
Intel has nothing to worry about in the CPU arena. AMD have basically admitted defeat and completely given up.
Well, the chips the new consoles are using are APUs, and APUs more than just X86 CPUs, so your point doesn't hold here...
If well utilized, an APU can put a 8 core Intel CPU to shame in many scenarios including gaming.
the Lionheart wrote:Well, the chips the new consoles are using are APUs, and APUs more than just X86 CPUs, so your point doesn't hold here...
superjawes wrote:This argument reminds me of how people insisted that the PS3's Cell was vastly superior to the CPU in the 360. End results? Pretty minimal difference.
I realize that the gpu I pick (probably 280x) should outperform what the new consoles have