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conlusio wrote:JBI - So better than an Atom, obviously worse than anything Core iX based - in the same ballpark with a Pentium or Celeron Sandy?
Glorious wrote:I'm pretty sure the 604 was netburst only
Concupiscence wrote:I thought they were too, but checking Wikipedia's list of Xeon CPUs showed that some number of Conroe/Wolfdale parts were made for the form factor. Surprised me, let me tell you.
Concupiscence wrote:I thought they were too, but checking Wikipedia's list of Xeon CPUs showed that some number of Conroe/Wolfdale parts were made for the form factor. Surprised me, let me tell you.
Glorious wrote:Concupiscence wrote:I thought they were too, but checking Wikipedia's list of Xeon CPUs showed that some number of Conroe/Wolfdale parts were made for the form factor. Surprised me, let me tell you.
Do you have a link? I could be wrong, but I thought they were only 775.
conlusio wrote:They're the old Socket 604 Netbust architecture. I've got a wonderful rate deal with the local electric company at .07 kWH so electricity is no big deal. I'll push them back into light server duty, at since some of them have dual onboard gigabit network cards and 64/66 PCI-X slots.
I'm still curious what they would equate to in modern use (yes they're 10 years old). Passmark seems to have something that puts them in line with low clocked B series Pentiums. Anyone have any pointers to anything more conclusive? I can't even do a percentage comparison going back into the CPU archives here on TechReport.
Thanks!
ozzuneoj wrote:I'm not that familiar with server workloads but its worth noting that anything with SSE2 instructions or better will be far more useful than anything without them. Your Xeons would definitely have SSE2.
just brew it! wrote:ozzuneoj wrote:I'm not that familiar with server workloads but its worth noting that anything with SSE2 instructions or better will be far more useful than anything without them. Your Xeons would definitely have SSE2.
Unless he's planning on using them as compute servers of some sort I doubt SSE2 matters much.
captaintrav wrote:just brew it! wrote:ozzuneoj wrote:I'm not that familiar with server workloads but its worth noting that anything with SSE2 instructions or better will be far more useful than anything without them. Your Xeons would definitely have SSE2.
Unless he's planning on using them as compute servers of some sort I doubt SSE2 matters much.
One thing I've noticed with old processors, especially just using them as general-purpose internet surfing/video watching machines is that SSE2 really matters in this case. You can watch HD videos pretty easily if the CPU supports SSE2, without it, not so much. That said, I've upgraded from a fairly late-model Netburst (Pentium D, which has two cores even) to a low end Core2 chip, and even in general computing, it's night and day difference in smoothness. It makes me sad, but Athlon XP and anything Netburst is essentially garbage now. I have perfectly a perfectly working Nforce 2 system with an XP 2500+ CPU that I can't bear to junk, but even overclocked it's not very good. It is somewhat usable with Lubuntu (LXDE) and Chrome, but I'm literally getting Core2 era machines for free now - even low end A64 derived Semprons are much more usable.
conlusio wrote:I don't have a specific use in mind for them, I was just trying to get a handle on what might be possible for them.
They range from 1.6 GHz LV Prestonia Cores [ MMX, SSE, SSE2, Hyper-Threading] (which I had several clock to 3.6-3.8 stable back in the days of PC-DL overclocking), to 3.6 Nocona [adds SSE3].
If I'm reading what everyone is saying correctly the Prestonia cores are better off going into firewall/light NAS applications on network heavy motherboards, while the Nocona's might make reasonable, if extremely inefficient and noisy file servers / streaming boxes.
I can't resist mucking about with old hardware, so I'll probably be on the forums looking for donations or low cost upgrades so I can put these things to use. I might put some boxes together so my nieces can have something they can have something to mess with software-wise without risking mom and dad's bright and shiny Macbooks.