Personal computing discussed
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WhatMeWorry wrote:Am I being too pessimistic?
WhatMeWorry wrote:So is the whole APU strategy of AMD a bust?
Geonerd wrote:I think these chips are a bust when running on a 128 bit DDR3 bus.
As it stands, all those GPU cores/shaders/whatevertheheckthey'recalled are utterly strangled for bandwidth. With the current FM2x chips, I think AMD would have been better off reclaiming some of the silicon currently devoted to GPU resources and plonking in another CPU module, maybe two. That would have maintained at least rough x86 parity with Thuban/83xx chips, while including enough GPU power to be useful for OpenCL uses and light gaming. Add a cheap discrete GPU to upgrade. As delivered, I really don't understand how any 'gamer' worth his/her salt is supposed to be tempted by Kaveri.
If they next socket doesn't doesn't arrive soon and include either a stacked-on-chip-DDR5 die or 2+gb of DDR5 memory (no 64-bit buses allowed either!) nailed to the Mobo, AMD will become utterly irrelevant.
TheEmrys wrote:Its SSE5 all over again.
just brew it! wrote:I think AMD may have also been blindsided a bit by the massive shift to mobile
morphine wrote:just brew it! wrote:I think AMD may have also been blindsided a bit by the massive shift to mobile
How one is blindsided by a massive cargo ship is beyond me
morphine wrote:I was making an analogy to the whole market, not just ARM. Whoever didn't see the shift to mobile must have been hibernating for the past few years.
morphine wrote:just brew it! wrote:I think AMD may have also been blindsided a bit by the massive shift to mobile
How one is blindsided by a massive cargo ship is beyond me
DPete27 wrote:I think many people commenting here are looking at the term "APU" too optimistically. IMO, "APU's" were implemented to save platform costs by bringing the integrated graphics on-die (see SoC) first and foremost.
Dagwood wrote:A budget system still consists of a 100 dollar mother board and a 150 dollar processor, just as it has been for 20 years.
just brew it! wrote:I'd say that is really more low-mid-range once you get to those kinds of prices.