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Chrispy_ wrote:You DO NOT want to overclock when dealing with audio creation software. Some of it is just plain old PCI latency that relies on a rock-stable 100MHz PCI-e system clock.
Chrispy_ wrote:Also, some of the better audio software is OLD, you may want to run Windows XP as a VM
Wicked Mystic wrote:iamjsmith83 wrote:PROCESSOR: Intel Core i7-4770 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770 $310
I really don't think I need to go with a 4770k..
i7-4770 processor is meant for OEM machines or casual users. Since you are buying high end motherboard, there is no reasons to buy i7-4770. i7-4770K is better choice.
i7-4770 makes no sense even if not overlocking because Xeon 1230 v3 is much cheaper.
iamjsmith83 wrote:Excellent. Have you read the latest system guide?I am about ready to build my first machine.
iamjsmith83 wrote:Because I'm not familiar with your video editing software, I don't know how well it benefits from hyper-threading. Games tend not to benefit as much, so the Core i5-4670 ends up providing a better bang for the buck in that case.$310 Intel Core i7-4770
iamjsmith83 wrote:Which features does this motherboard have that you need, compared to a less expensive model like the $130 Asus Z87-A?$209 ASUS Z87-Pro
iamjsmith83 wrote:For 1920x1080, this is plenty of graphics card. If you're going to game at 2560x1440, you may want to step up to a hot-clocked GeForce GTX770 for $340.$270 EVGA 02G-P4-2765-KR GeForce GTX 760 2GB
iamjsmith83 wrote:You could save some money here.$130 CORSAIR HX Series HX750
iamjsmith83 wrote:Is this any better than the $35 CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo?$50 ENERMAX ETS-T40-W
iamjsmith83 wrote:Cases tend to depend on personal preference. Have you looked at the models recommended in the guide?$120 Corsair Vengeance Series C70
iamjsmith83 wrote:Those DIMMs have large decorative heatsinks. I suggested some memory without this design defect in your previous thread.$170 2x8 GiB PC312800 Corsair CMZ16GX3M2A1600C9
iamjsmith83 wrote:It's $40 cheaper at Amazon.$190 250 GB SAMSUNG 840 EVO
iamjsmith83 wrote:Western Digital hard-drives have not been price competitive since the floods a few years back.$150 2.0 TB Western Digital WD2003FZEX
DPete27 wrote:very tall heatspreaders (that aren't really necessary by the way).
iamjsmith83 wrote:Thanks for all the input everyone. It's greatly appreciated. But now I am getting confused on a few things!
MOTHERBOARD: I think my new dilemma now is which motherboard to get. ....... and as for the H87 Asus board, there are only 5 reviews on Newegg so that is kind of scary for me to commit to.
iamjsmith83 wrote:PROCESSOR: I think I am pretty much set on getting the i7 4770 instead of the i7 4770k. I really don't see a need for me to overclock. And I just wouldn't feel comfortable doing it anyway. But I noticed some mention of saving money and getting the i5. This was my first issue I set out to solve on my computer build journey. It was my understanding that for video editing with multiple video and audio tracks being "stacked" in a timeline that the i7 would be the better choice since it has a total of 8 threads, which are supposedly huge when it comes to smooth video editing. Unless someone can show me substantial proof that I can smoothly edit with an i5 that doesn't have a total of 8 threads, I will be getting the i7 4770. I'd love for someone to prove me wrong!
iamjsmith83 wrote:POWER SUPPLY: It was suggested that I could get a power supply in the >500 watt range. I know the CPU draws 84 watts of power and the video card draws 170 watts of power so between the two that is 254 watts. I am assuming that those are the two biggest power draws for a computer. Can anyone give me an approximation of what other parts of the computer will use?
iamjsmith83 wrote:And also I was wondering if a power supply was rated at say 500 watts with 90% efficiency does that mean that the most power that the supply could output is 450 watts (500 x 0.90) or is it in fact 500 watts?
cjcerny wrote:Why do you need the video card again? If you are not going to game now, the IGP in the CPU you have selected will work just fine. Add the video card down the line when you are ready to game.
iamjsmith83 wrote:Can anyone give me an approximation of what other parts of the computer will use?
cjcerny wrote:Why do you need the video card again? If you are not going to game now, the IGP in the CPU you have selected will work just fine.
DPete27 wrote:cjcerny wrote:Why do you need the video card again? If you are not going to game now, the IGP in the CPU you have selected will work just fine.
I've been wondering the same thing this whole time. I figured it was something related to GPU acceleration in the software, so I let it slide.
Chrispy_ wrote:OP says he doesn't game now but may want to in the future.
cjcerny wrote:Why do you need the video card again? If you are not going to game now, the IGP in the CPU you have selected will work just fine. Add the video card down the line when you are ready to game.
cjcerny wrote:Why do you need the video card again? If you are not going to game now, the IGP in the CPU you have selected will work just fine. Add the video card down the line when you are ready to game.
Wicked Mystic wrote:As said before, integrated craphics has no match for GeForce. So you are crippling your machine heavily. Even AMD APU is much better choice than any Intel if not putting separate video card.
So GeForce + Xeon is good choice.
Wicked Mystic wrote:As said before, integrated craphics has no match for GeForce. So you are crippling your machine heavily. Even AMD APU is much better choice than any Intel if not putting separate video card.
iamjsmith83 wrote:http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/veg ... celeration
Do you think that information validates getting a graphics card or should I just use the integrated graphics?
The Egg wrote:Wicked Mystic wrote:As said before, integrated craphics has no match for GeForce. So you are crippling your machine heavily. Even AMD APU is much better choice than any Intel if not putting separate video card.
Disagree. He said he's not going to be playing any games right now, so he's better off saving the money and using integrated graphics. Reason being, If he buys a card now, it's just going to sit idle in his case and lose value. 12 months from now or however far down the road, he'll be able to get a newer better card for the same money.
Chrispy_ wrote:Wicked Mystic, please stop confusing people! If the OP gives you a link to an OpenCL-accelerated application, a Geforce is not the right direction to push him in - Anyone that has any experience with OpenCL avoids Nvidia cards and has done for at least three years.
JustAnEngineer wrote:There are plenty of good PWM fans available. It's up to your motherboard to provide controls for them unless you buy a dedicated fan controller. Asus' fan controls are generally the best in the industry.
Wicked Mystic wrote:That application supports Cuda. And that is something AMD lacks. And Adobe software tend to have much better Cuda support than OpenCL support. Sadly.
Vegas Pro™ 12 leverages the processing capabilities of modern GPUs (Graphic Processing Units) using the industry-standard OpenCL™ framework. Rather than being tied to a single manufacturer or technology, this hardware-agnostic approach enables Vegas Pro 12 users to enjoy remarkable performance improvements across a broad range of popularly-priced, widely available GPU devices.