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dortmunder wrote:I'll need a memory card reader for my digital camera's storage card. These readers all seem to be of smaller width than an optical drive. Do all cases come with a suitable slot on the front?
dortmunder wrote:DDR3 sticks appear to come in two shapes – 'normal' and those odd looking ones such as Corsair Vengeance. Is there a difference between the two types? If not, why the odd shape of the Vengeance?
dortmunder wrote:I'm not a gamer so a mini or micro board would probably be fine. However, would I be correct in thinking that a full size ATX is easier to work with (fiddly plugs etc)?
dortmunder wrote:Is the motherboard's backplate (for the mouse/keyboard etc) an industry standard size i.e. any mobo backplate will fit any case?
dortmunder wrote:Do CPUs come with a tube of thermal paste or is that a separate purchase?
dortmunder wrote:Willkommen im The Tech Report!Hi.
dortmunder wrote:Most of the internal card readers will fit into a 3½" drive bay (the same size as a floppy disk drive). A few large ones will fit into a 5¼" drive bay (the same size as a Blu-ray drive). If your case has only 5¼" bays, you can use a £6 or £5 or £10 adapter to install a 3½" device in a 5¼" drive bay. Do look for a reader that supports USB3, like this £30 Silverstone FP-56 (5¼") or £23 FP-37 (3½").I'll need a memory card reader.
dortmunder wrote:It is very much like having a giant surfboard-sized wing attached to the boot lid of your Honda Civic. It's all about appearances. You will want two DIMMs. I recommend lower profile memory like Crucial Ballistix Sport BLS2K8G3D1609ES2LX0 or Ballistix Tactical BLT2K8G3D1608ET3LX0 (16 GiB kits) or BLS2K4G3D1609ES2LX0 or BLT2K4G3D1608ET3LX0 (8 GiB kits).DDR3 sticks appear to come in two shapes – 'normal' and those odd looking ones such as Corsair Vengeance. Is there a difference between the two types? If not, why the odd shape of the Vengeance?
dortmunder wrote:I believe that Micro-ATX offers plenty of space for an enthusiast PC. Take a look at the £122 or £120 Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5, for example. All that you get with an ATX motherboard are another two or three slots (which are frequently obsolete PCI slots rather than potentially useful PCIe slots, anyway). Micro-ATX motherboards can be installed into ATX cases, but you may need to unscrew and re-install a standoff at the lower edge before you install the motherboard. There are a number of good Micro-ATX cases available, like the £56 or £70 or £67½ Silverstone Precision PS07.I'm not a gamer so a mini or micro board would probably be fine. However, would I be correct in thinking that a full size ATX is easier to work with (fiddly plugs etc)?
dortmunder wrote:A new I/O shield will be included in the box with the new motherboard. It takes only a minute to pop it into the case.Is the motherboard's backplate (for the mouse/keyboard etc) an industry standard size i.e. any mobo backplate will fit any case?
dortmunder wrote:Processors that come with CPU coolers (as most of them do), have a square of thermal interface material (TIM) already-applied to the heatsink. You will peel off a protective plastic film and then place the heatsink on the CPU that you have already mounted on the motherboard. The TIM is good for only one use. If you remove the heatsink and re-install it, you will need to clean off the gooey TIM and install new paste.Do CPUs come with a tube of thermal paste or is that a separate purchase?
dortmunder wrote:I do a lot of CD ripping and audio editing with Exact Audio Copy and Audacity. Am I correct in thinking that a sound card's job is to enable you to HEAR good audio rather than to CREATE good audio? In other words, does my EAC and Audacity do the same job with or without a dedicated sound card?
Flying Fox wrote:If you buy an Asus board though, they include a block adapter that should make your life easier.
DPete27 wrote:Flying Fox wrote:If you buy an Asus board though, they include a block adapter that should make your life easier.
Even though I agree that the Asus block adapter does make things easier, am I the only one that doesn't think it's that big of a deal to attach the front panel headers? The Asus block adapter is a welcome addition, but it wouldn't sway my purchasing decisions in itself.
Flying Fox wrote:DPete27 wrote:Flying Fox wrote:If you buy an Asus board though, they include a block adapter that should make your life easier.
Even though I agree that the Asus block adapter does make things easier, am I the only one that doesn't think it's that big of a deal to attach the front panel headers? The Asus block adapter is a welcome addition, but it wouldn't sway my purchasing decisions in itself.
To you and me, may be not much difference (I actually feel that the increased "height" of the block adapter may make the whole thing more loose so I choose not to use it). The OP is a first-timer so it can help.
SuperSpy wrote:Most good motherboards now have labels directly adjacent to the header now, which is typically all I'm concerned with (not having to dig up the useless motherboard manual). It would be nice if they standardized into one block like USB/Audio, though.
dortmunder wrote:PSU: Corsair CXM600W
dortmunder wrote:Thanks again for all the comments. As regards the block adapter, I'd probably try to do without it in the (irrational, I know) belief that the connection wouldn't be 'as good'. I'm a bit OCD that way...
JohnC wrote:Memory card reader - buy an external one, it's easier to plug your cards into it (you can put in anywhere on your desk) and it's easier to replace when it goes dead (these things do die, I went through 2 garbage Rosewill internal memory card readers before getting an external one by different brand). You can also easily unplug it and use it on any different PC/laptop which might not have it.
just brew it! wrote:JohnC wrote:Memory card reader - buy an external one, it's easier to plug your cards into it (you can put in anywhere on your desk) and it's easier to replace when it goes dead (these things do die, I went through 2 garbage Rosewill internal memory card readers before getting an external one by different brand). You can also easily unplug it and use it on any different PC/laptop which might not have it.
I went with a Rosewill internal mainly because I wanted the front panel eSATA/power port.
DPete27 wrote:They're £33 and £38. The more efficient CS450M is £57 while the RM450 is £66.dortmunder wrote:You don't need that big of a PSU for your system. Keep your eyes peeled for the CX430... PSU, the CX430M is modular.PSU: Corsair CXM600W
just brew it! wrote:Here's a cheaper solution.Maybe I just need to get a decent set of progressive lenses.
dortmunder wrote:I'll need a memory card reader for my digital camera's storage card. These readers all seem to be of smaller width than an optical drive. Do all cases come with a suitable slot on the front?
DDR3 sticks appear to come in two shapes – 'normal' and those odd looking ones such as Corsair Vengeance. Is there a difference between the two types? If not, why the odd shape of the Vengeance?
I'm not a gamer so a mini or micro board would probably be fine. However, would I be correct in thinking that a full size ATX is easier to work with (fiddly plugs etc)?
Is the motherboard's backplate (for the mouse/keyboard etc) an industry standard size i.e. any mobo backplate will fit any case?
Do CPUs come with a tube of thermal paste or is that a separate purchase?
If you're interested, I've made my kit selection:
CPU: Intel Core i3-4130
MOBO: Asus H87M-E
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x4Gb
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB (I've a 1TB HDD for file storage)
OPTICAL: Asus DVD-RW Drive DRW-24F1ST
PSU: Corsair CXM600W
dortmunder wrote:Right-angle SATA cables aren't expensive at Monoprice (best place to get cables and a few other things) -- and I often use them even where the regular ones will fit, simply because they generally make cable management easier (at the HD end they get all the cables going in the same direction right away, which is nice).That just leaves the case which is currently giving me a headache – every time I identify a possibility there seems to be a user review that puts me off. With the latest one (Corsair Carbide Series 300R) it's that it needs SATA leads with a 90 degree connector which I daresay aren't supplied. Cases seem to have gotten longer, too. My current one is 18.5 inches long and sits nicely on a wooden board. Most boards I'm seeing are an inch or two longer so would overlap. Better stop moaning, though and continue the search...
dortmunder wrote:do modern boards have wi-fi built in or will I still have to use the dongle currently plugged into the back of my PC?
dortmunder wrote:The reason for listing the Corsair CXM600W was because of what Tech Report's February System Guide said about the CX430M - “output power should be enough to handle a system based on the other budget components”. I didn't like the word 'should' so took no chances.
Another thought has just occurred to me – do modern boards have wi-fi built in or will I still have to use the dongle currently plugged into the back of my PC?