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The Egg wrote:Well citizen that's an excellent question and I thank you for it.
I think it's great that we live in a country where you can ask questions. Because without questions, we'd just have answers. And an answer without a question is a statement.
f0d wrote:i3 4 core - hyperthreading
i5 6 core
i7 6 core - hyperthreading
f0d wrote:since its a guessing game i think it will go like this for skylake
celeron 2 core **maybe** (neutered pentium)
pentium/celeron 4 core (i think there still might be a chance for 4 core celerons)
f0d wrote:i3 4 core 8 thread Skylake
i5 6 core 6 thread Skylake
Wirko wrote:3-way SMT is also possible, and Intel might decide that the fourth thread brings about too little benefit. So, another take:
i3 - 2 core 6 thread
i5 - 4 core 8 thread
i7 - 4 core 12 threadf0d wrote:i3 4 core 8 thread Skylake
i5 6 core 6 thread Skylake
This is unlikely as it would put i3 and i5 too close together, and i3 too high - actually, that's where Haswell i7 is.
Code Name | Product | Cores | Threads | Clocks | Power | Release Date | Notes |
Haswell-E | Core i7 | 4 to 8 | 8 to 16 | 3.3 to 3.7 Ghz | 130W to 150W | 2014Q3 | First chip with DDR4. Unlocked multipliers. |
Haswell-E | Xeon E5 | 4 to 8 | 8 to 16 | 3.3 to 3.7 Ghz | 130W to 150W | 2014Q4 | |
Haswell-EP | Xeon E5 | 10 to 12 | 20 to 24 | 3.3 to 3.7 Ghz | 130W to 150W | 2014Q4 | |
Haswell-EX | Xeon E7 | 8 to 18 | 8 to 36 | 2.0 to 2.8 Ghz | 95W to 150W | 2015Q2 | Uses same socket as Ivy Bridge-EX. Introduces DDR4 memory buffers. |
Broadwell | Core i3 | 2 | 4 | 2.4 to 3.7 Ghz | 35W to 77W | 2015Q1 | |
Broadwell | Core i5 | 4 | 4 | 2.6 to 3.3 Ghz | 35W to 77W | 2015Q1 | |
Broadwell | Core i7 | 4 | 8 | 2.6 to 3.5 Ghz | 45W to 87W? | 2015Q1 | |
Crystalwell | Core i7 Extreme Edition | 4 | 8 | 3.6 Ghz? | 95W? | 2015Q2 | 128 MB of eDRAM |
Broadwell-E | Core i9 | 4 to 8 | 8 to 16 | 3.4 to 3.8 Ghz | 130W to 150W | 2015Q4 | Uses same socket as Haswell-E. Unlocked multipliers. Harvested from 10 core dies. |
Broadwell-E | Xeon E5 | 4 to 10 | 8 to 20 | 3.4 to 4.0 Ghz | 95W to 150W | 2015Q4 | Uses same socket as Haswell-E. |
Broadwell-EP | Xeon E5 | 10 to 15 | 20 to 30 | 3.4 to 3.7 Ghz | 130W to 150W | 2015Q4 | Uses same socket as Haswell-E. eDRAM options? |
Broadwell-EX | Xeon E7 | 8 to 18 | 16 to 36 | 2.2 to 2.8 Ghz | 95W to 150W | 2016Q1 | Same socket as Ivy Bridge-EX. eDRAM options? |
Sky Lake | Core i3 | 2 | 4 | 2.4 to 3.4 Ghz | 25W to 65W | 2016Q1 | New socket. SoC. Single channel DDR4 and 16 PCIe 4.0 lanes |
Sky Lake | Core i5 | 4 | 8 | 2.4 to 3.2 Ghz | 35W to 77W | 2016Q1 | New socket. SoC. Dual channel DDR4 and 20 PCIe 4.0 lanes max |
Sky Lake | Core i7 | 4 | 16 | 3.3 Ghz | 35W to 87W | 2016Q1 | New socket. SoC. Dual channel DDR4 and 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes max |
Crystal Lake? | Core i7 Extreme Edition | 4 | 16 | 3.4 Ghz | 95W | 2016Q2 | New socket. SoC. Dual channel DDR4 and 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes, 256 MB of eDRAM, unlocked |
Sky Lake-E | Core i9 | 6 to 8 | 32 | 3.2 to 3.6 Ghz | 130W to 200W | 2017Q1 | New socket. Six channel DDR4, registered memory required, up to 72 PCIe 4.0, NVMe, harvested from 10 core die |
Sky Lake-E | Xeon E5 | 6 to 10 | 24 to 40 | 3.5 to 4.0 Ghz | 87W to 150W | 2017Q1 | New socket. Six channel DDR4, registered memory required, up to 72 PCIe 4.0, NVMe |
Sky Lake-EP | Xeon E5 | 12 to 16 | 48 to 64 | 3.5 to 4.0 Ghz | 130W to 200W | 2017Q1 | New socket. Six channel DDR4, registered memory required, up to 72 PCIe 4.0, NVMe, eDRAM |
Sky Lake-EX | Xeon E7 | 12 to 20 | 48 to 80 | 2.2 to 3.0 Ghz | 95W to 200W | 2017Q3 | New socket. Sixteen memory buffer channels, up to 56 PCIe 4.0, NVMe, eDRAM, six QPI 2.0 optical links |
Sky Lake refresh | Core i3 | 4 | 4 | 2.4 to 3.5 Ghz | 25W to 65W | 2016Q4 | New socket. SoC. Single channel DDR4 and 16 PCIe lanes |
Sky Lake refresh | Core i5 | 4 | 8 | 2.4 to 3.5 Ghz | 35W to 77W | 2016Q4 | New socket. SoC. Dual channel DDR4 and 20 PCIe 4.0 lanes max |
Sky Lake refresh | Core i7 | 4 | 16 | 3.4 Ghz | 35W to 87W | 2016Q4 | New socket. SoC. Dual channel DDR4 and 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes max, 128 MB of eDRAM |
Crystal Lake refresh | Core i7 Extreme Edition | 4 | 16 | 3.5 Ghz | 95W | 2016Q4 | New socket. SoC. Dual channel DDR4 and 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes, 256 MB of eDRAM, unlocked |
Sky Lake-E refresh | Core i9 | 6 to 10 | 24 to 40 | 3.3 to 3.6 Ghz | 130W to 200W | 2017Q1 | New socket. Six channel DDR4, registered memory required, up to 72 PCIe 4.0, NVMe |
Cannon Lake | Core i3 | 4 | 4 | 2.0 to 3.4 Ghz | 20W to 65W | 2017Q3 | New socket. SoC. Dual channel DDR4 and 16 PCIe 4.0 lanes |
Cannon Lake | Core i5 | 4 | 8 | 2.4 to 3.4 Ghz | 35W to 65W | 2017Q3 | New socket. SoC. Dual channel DDR4 and 20 PCIe 4.0 lanes max |
Cannon Lake | Core i7 | 6 | 12 | 3.4 Ghz | 35W to 87W | 2017Q3 | New socket. SoC. Dual channel DDR4 and 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes max, 128 MB of eDRAM |
Cannon Lake | Core i7 Extreme Edition | 6 | 24 | 3.6 Ghz | 87W | 2017Q3 | New socket. SoC. Dual channel DDR4 and 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes, 256 MB of eDRAM, unlocked |
Cannon Lake-E | Core i9 | 6 to 10 | 24 to 40 | 3.3 to 3.6 Ghz | 130W to 200W | 2018Q3 | Sky Lake-EP socket. Six channel DDR4, registered memory required, up to 72 PCIe 4.0, NVMe |
Cannon Lake-E | Xeon E5 | 8 to 12 | 24 to 40 | 3.5 to 4.0 Ghz | 87W to 150W | 2018Q4 | Sky Lake-EP socket. Six channel DDR4, registered memory required, up to 72 PCIe 4.0, NVMe |
Cannon Lake-EP | Xeon E5 | 12 to 20 | 48 to 80 | 3.2 to 4.0 Ghz | 95W to 200W | 2018Q4 | Sky Lake-EP socket. Six channel DDR4, registered memory required, up to 72 PCIe 4.0, NVMe, eDRAM |
Cannon Lake-EX | Xeon E7 | 12 to 24 | 48 to 96 | 2.2 to 3.0 Ghz | 87W to 200W | 2019Q1 | Sky Lake-EX socket. Sixteen memory buffer channels, up to 56 PCIe 4.0, NVMe, eDRAM, six QPI 2.0 optical links |
As the number of core areas, and no change, still remain at 2C4T or 4C8T
UnfriendlyFire wrote:I would assume that as long as AMD doesn't threaten Intel's desktop/laptop market, Intel has little incentive to up the core count, because that means using more silicon die when they could've created more CPUs with the same wafer.
I definitely expect Intel to continue using dual-cores for ULVs for a while.
UnfriendlyFire wrote:I think all Intel is going to do consistently is tack on more GPU cores.
Take a look at the trend from Sandybridge's IGP all the way to Haswell, and Intel plans on doubling the amount of GPU cores for Broadwell.
Assuming AMD also keeps pace with their GCN IGP, it's eventually going to result in Intel's IGP being good enough for low-end gaming, AMD being forced to create more efficient IGPs or IGPs that can handle mid-range gaming (quite likely if AMD adds stacked-DRAM to their APUs), and Nividia getting kicked out of the low-end GPU market and thus stop selling their Fermi-rebrands (GT 820M being very similar to GT 435M makes me cringe).
elemein wrote:Haswell was quite an improvement (and an experiment... Sortof. I mean, a lot of work was put into making TSX and iVRMs work, and the results were interesting to say the least.)
Forge wrote:elemein wrote:Haswell was quite an improvement (and an experiment... Sortof. I mean, a lot of work was put into making TSX and iVRMs work, and the results were interesting to say the least.)
Off-topic and I apologize, but did you see where Intel has officially strangled integrated VRM? Apparently they were so "impressed" by the iVRM results on Haswell that they have cut the iVRMs out of all future designs. Rarely get to see Intel fully reverse on anything.
Forge wrote:elemein wrote:Haswell was quite an improvement (and an experiment... Sortof. I mean, a lot of work was put into making TSX and iVRMs work, and the results were interesting to say the least.)
Off-topic and I apologize, but did you see where Intel has officially strangled integrated VRM? Apparently they were so "impressed" by the iVRM results on Haswell that they have cut the iVRMs out of all future designs. Rarely get to see Intel fully reverse on anything.
Milo Burke wrote:Some might suggest bringing the core counts too high would challenge the server markets. I know before we were limited to 6 and 8 core processors for servers.