Personal computing discussed
ronch wrote:What are your thoughts? Do you hate Steam too and are just putting up with it?
ronch wrote:Where I live our internet connection is approximately 5 bits per second.
ronch wrote:This is the first and last game I get that needs Steam, I swear. I wanted to pay for this game, I really did. Now I somewhat feel I should've rebelled instead and got it through torrent!
I get most of my games from GOG.com where I have to download them. I hate Steam because it makes me download games to play them.
odizzido wrote:Steam is terrible for BUYING games. It's okay for renting them, though usually they try to charge purchase prices for their rentals which is a pretty crap thing to do.
PenGun wrote:odizzido wrote:Steam is terrible for BUYING games. It's okay for renting them, though usually they try to charge purchase prices for their rentals which is a pretty crap thing to do.
Ugh ... thing ... own. Careful not to hit your knuckles with that rock.
slowriot wrote:IMO.... OPs problems are primarily due to the lack of familiarity with Steam. It behaved as expected. It definitely prompts you if you want to install after you've added a key, sounds to me OP clicked OK/Yes on dialog boxes without fully reading them.
Kougar wrote:Anyone can play Steam games in offline mode anywhere they want as long as the system is already validated with steam guard. If the game itself requires a permanent internet connection then that was a decision made by the game devs so assign the blame to them, not Steam.
geekl33tgamer wrote:Steam has a lot of support with the PC Gaming community, right? My only gripe with it is the occasional price gouging (but Steam Sales make up for this - Those are awesome), and 'm not happy with some games only using Steam as the content delivery service. I'm looking at EA and Ubisoft titles in particular, whereby if you buy their games on Steam it then launches you into Origin / UPlay separately. You end up with several game stores / services running at any one time.
ronch wrote:Ok, I just got a copy of Thief (4) on DVD and I must say... Steam SUCKS!!!
ronch wrote:Nope. It was my first time running Steam so I was kinda careful. It may have asked me about proceeding with the installation but I was never asked whether I wanted to install from the discs. I'm sure it would be nice to download the latest build, but as I've said, our internet connection sucks. And it's relatively expensive. Local ISPs here have been screwing us.
Plus, I've noticed that Steam doesn't seem to work all that well. The game placed an icon on my desktop. While Steam is downloading (presumably) the last 2% of the game, I quit Steam and tried to launch the game using the icon. Windows opened a new window saying Steam is being updated but it didn't continue doing so. Restarted the system, clicked on the icon again, and I'm back to the screen which says files for Thief are being downloaded. Don't know if the message earlier about Steam itself needing to be updated was wrong or Steam was already done updating. Weird. I know a lot of you guys swear by Steam because you've all gotten used to its weirdness, but it'll take me a while to get used to it, admittedly. As it is, I'd still try to stay away from such crazy gimmicks as soon as I finish Thief.Are
ronch wrote:slowriot wrote:IMO.... OPs problems are primarily due to the lack of familiarity with Steam. It behaved as expected. It definitely prompts you if you want to install after you've added a key, sounds to me OP clicked OK/Yes on dialog boxes without fully reading them.
Nope. It was my first time running Steam so I was kinda careful. It may have asked me about proceeding with the installation but I was never asked whether I wanted to install from the discs. I'm sure it would be nice to download the latest build, but as I've said, our internet connection sucks. And it's relatively expensive. Local ISPs here have been screwing us.
Plus, I've noticed that Steam doesn't seem to work all that well. The game placed an icon on my desktop. While Steam is downloading (presumably) the last 2% of the game, I quit Steam and tried to launch the game using the icon. Windows opened a new window saying Steam is being updated but it didn't continue doing so. Restarted the system, clicked on the icon again, and I'm back to the screen which says files for Thief are being downloaded. Don't know if the message earlier about Steam itself needing to be updated was wrong or Steam was already done updating. Weird. I know a lot of you guys swear by Steam because you've all gotten used to its weirdness, but it'll take me a while to get used to it, admittedly. As it is, I'd still try to stay away from such crazy gimmicks as soon as I finish Thief.Are
Ryhadar wrote:I've never had steam start immediately downloading a game after putting in a product key. I wonder if they changed something since I've done it last.
PenGun wrote:Steam rules eh'.
The real reason I went straight, have not boosted a game in years. 70+ in my account and I believe Gabe when he says we will get the games if Steam ever folds.
You do need to learn how to work it but that's true of anything.
odizzido wrote:PenGun wrote:odizzido wrote:Steam is terrible for BUYING games. It's okay for renting them, though usually they try to charge purchase prices for their rentals which is a pretty crap thing to do.
Ugh ... thing ... own. Careful not to hit your knuckles with that rock.
I have no idea what you're talking about
PenGun wrote:Well seeing you do not understand even periods, I will explain.
I buy games from Steam. They do not rent them. I own many many GB of data and right now I have exactly one disc. A Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl disc as it was not possible to roll the steam version back to 1.0004 at that time. It is now and I would just do that, these days.
You seem to believe that you don't own something unless you have a physical thing. That is primitive, hence the knuckle dragging analogy.
odizzido wrote:PenGun wrote:Well seeing you do not understand even periods, I will explain.
I buy games from Steam. They do not rent them. I own many many GB of data and right now I have exactly one disc. A Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl disc as it was not possible to roll the steam version back to 1.0004 at that time. It is now and I would just do that, these days.
You seem to believe that you don't own something unless you have a physical thing. That is primitive, hence the knuckle dragging analogy.
I see. No, I own the games I purchase on gog because gog can do anything they wish and I will still be able to play them.
Steam on the other hand has the right to remove all your games from you for no reason. If Valve goes under and doesn't provide a patch, you're SOL all you games are gone. If the steam servers are down...well too bad you cannot play your games ATM. In the end, you're just borrowing something from them for as long as they feel like letting you have it.
BTW, next time you want to call someone stupid, you should probably understand the situation before you post so you don't end up looking like a fool.
odizzido wrote:I see. No, I own the games I purchase on gog because gog can do anything they wish and I will still be able to play them.
Steam on the other hand has the right to remove all your games from you for no reason. If Valve goes under and doesn't provide a patch, you're SOL all you games are gone. If the steam servers are down...well too bad you cannot play your games ATM. In the end, you're just borrowing something from them for as long as they feel like letting you have it.
BTW, next time you want to call someone stupid, you should probably understand the situation before you post so you don't end up looking like a fool.
vargis14 wrote:I hate Blizzard with a passion since I cannot play Diablo 3 because the darn Authenticator app on my phone will not give me the correct code to allow me to play!
To reset they want a picture of my driver licence....are they outta their minds, I have yet to call tyhem this happened this past weekend after not playing for months.
I hate just because you do not play something for a while you have to jump through hoops, claps your hands and do cart wheels all at the same time to get them going. Ubisoft is a SOB too. I have been lucky with Origin so far believe it or not.
vargis14 wrote:I hate Blizzard with a passion since I cannot play Diablo 3 because the darn Authenticator app on my phone will not give me the correct code to allow me to play!
To reset they want a picture of my driver licence....are they outta their minds, I have yet to call tyhem this happened this past weekend after not playing for months.
odizzido wrote:I own the games I purchase
odizzido wrote:BTW, next time you want to call someone stupid, you should probably understand the situation before you post so you don't end up looking like a fool.
Forge wrote:That's what cracks do.