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Losergamer04 wrote:You could get a router compatible with an open source firmware (such as the Buffalo AC 1750 that comes with DD-WRT installed) and then update it with new firmware releases yourself as necessary.Consumer routers that face the internet rarely get updates, the process isn't as nice, and they are not supported very long. My DIR-655 was still being made but they stopped firmware updates for my hardware version about a year after I bought it. I like the idea of having hardware that is supported and gets updates. There have been quite a few storied about GNUTLS and OpenSSL this year that make that a greater priority fo rme. PFSense will likely keep updating the hardware well past the next 802.11 WiFi standard/upgrade. If Netgear doesn't, the community image will likely keep going, especially with the box I'm looking at having x86 in it.
Losergamer04 wrote:I like the idea of having hardware that is supported and gets updates.
Losergamer04 wrote:I was hoping that maybe there is a corner of the internet where there exists a consumer-grade access point that costs what a 3x3 router costs.
Consumer routers that face the internet rarely get updates, the process isn't as nice, and they are not supported very long. My DIR-655 was still being made but they stopped firmware updates for my hardware version about a year after I bought it. I like the idea of having hardware that is supported and gets updates. There have been quite a few storied about GNUTLS and OpenSSL this year that make that a greater priority fo rme. PFSense will likely keep updating the hardware well past the next 802.11 WiFi standard/upgrade. If Netgear doesn't, the community image will likely keep going, especially with the box I'm looking at having x86 in it.
Losergamer04 wrote:As for the limitations of hardware, that is why I was trying to find just an AP to use and could sawp without changing routers.
If I could just swap the AP I won't have to deal with the reconfiguration when a new WiFi feature is added.
Losergamer04 wrote:Consumer routers that face the internet rarely get updates, the process isn't as nice, and they are not supported very long.
JohnC wrote:... Netgear R7000...
Hz so good wrote:Ah. You want a 'lightweight' AP (like the original 802.11b APs). I can poke around, and see if Ubiquiti or any other vendors are selling .11ac versions of those.
Losergamer04 wrote:Hz so good wrote:Ah. You want a 'lightweight' AP (like the original 802.11b APs). I can poke around, and see if Ubiquiti or any other vendors are selling .11ac versions of those.
I had looked at the Ubiquity but it was spendy.
Losergamer04 wrote:I use Xbox 360s as WMC extenders and I want to remove congestion on the n band for the one I don't have using a power line network adapter. I will eventually wire up my home with CAT6 when I get the time.
Losergamer04 wrote:I use Xbox 360s as WMC extenders and I want to remove congestion on the n band for the one I don't have using a power line network adapter. I will eventually wire up my home with CAT6 when I get the time.
MadManOriginal wrote:Losergamer04 wrote:I use Xbox 360s as WMC extenders and I want to remove congestion on the n band for the one I don't have using a power line network adapter. I will eventually wire up my home with CAT6 when I get the time.
I still don't understand how AC matters, especially when you could do powerline networking although I'm sure there's a reason you haven't done that already. First, how far away is it from the intended access point? AC might be no better than N. Also, you will need an AC bridge at the XBox as well. How many other devices do you have on N which make you feel it is 'congested'? Does the XBox only have issues when other devices are using the N network? Also, afaik AC uses the same 5GHz frequencies that N does, so if the congestion is from other networks AC won't help.
I was a little annoyed when AC came out and routers and some devices started integrating it not long after I upgraded my early N router. But then I realized AC is limited in range (a lot of the advantage of AC comes from using wider max 160MHz channels in addition to 5GHz), that it would only matter for intranet transfers and then only for fairly large transfers. I decided that having a very good N router was just as good because the only issues I ever have are at the edge of the range which AC won't change.
But if the point is to get teh new shinies, then go for it
Hz so good wrote:4) 160MHz wide channels (you *need* to use the wider channels to see the higher data rates)
5) > 1Gbps aggregate backplane, supporting multiple stations per AP
MadManOriginal wrote:I understand in general what the differences and advantages of ac are (although some of those things like beamforming are available in certain N devices) but for this specific case I am not sure what the benefit is...
MadManOriginal wrote:I understand in general what the differences and advantages of ac are (although some of those things like beamforming are available in certain N devices) but for this specific case I am not sure what the benefit is...the only way it would seem to matter is if he has numerous so many wireless clients on his network that the available bandwidth is saturated. Since he wants one to work with PFSense, if the benefits of ac don't matter, then he might as well go with one of the many N wireless devices that will work with his software.
MadManOriginal wrote:Of course, you're just discussing it broadly rather than for this specific case. It's also a stop-gap measure in this case since he says he will hard-wire it in the future. Plus, if the software compatibility is a requirement, well, that narrows things down it seems.
It may just be *slightly* too early for .ac for this specific application, which is always a shame, but if you have a problem to solve you have to work with what's available. If he was asking this in a year there would probably be an obvious solution and the thread wouldn't even be necessary.