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southrncomfortjm wrote:I'm in the planning stages for a home theater build out next year. Basically, I'll be taking my existing basement, adding a 65+ inch TV or projector, surround sound and furniture to make a really great room for watching movies and maybe playing video games.
At this point I'm undecided between 1080p and 4K and video player format - TV (prefer top end plasma or OLED if they get decently affordable in the next 2 years) or Projector. With a projector, I can throw a 100-125 inch picture in my basement, which is pretty sweet and would be incredibly immersive at a 7.5-8 feet away. And, with a projector, my eyes won't melt from the intense light of a TV that large and that close.
I'm really only interested in 4K if I can get it on a massive screen (hence the projector idea) and I can avoid the proprietary video player crap that Sony and Samsung have going on - otherwise, I'm fine with the best 1080p picture I can buy on my budget. The thing I've haven't been able to pin down is how to buy 4K movies without getting one of those proprietary media players other than some minimal Netflix 4K streaming.
Anyone know where to go for 4K content that is sold for viewing using a PC?
southrncomfortjm wrote:Oh yeah, I know 4K plasma aren't anywhere in the works. 1080p plasma, 1080p or 4K LED-LCD, OLED or projector are what I'm talking about.
vargis14 wrote:Owning a 55" Panasonic VT30 Plasma TV I can say with fact that the picture quality is fantastic. i have it mounted in our bedroom on a adjustable wall mount that will extend the TV/panel a little over 3 ft off the wall making the 55" plasma sit over mine and my wifes feet when we are laying in bed. So the screen is around 5ft from our eyeballs and that is about as close as you want a 55" tv, any closer and you notice the pixels.
Captain Ned wrote:vargis14 wrote:Owning a 55" Panasonic VT30 Plasma TV I can say with fact that the picture quality is fantastic. i have it mounted in our bedroom on a adjustable wall mount that will extend the TV/panel a little over 3 ft off the wall making the 55" plasma sit over mine and my wifes feet when we are laying in bed. So the screen is around 5ft from our eyeballs and that is about as close as you want a 55" tv, any closer and you notice the pixels.
Have you had to replace the drive boards on that unit? I have one myself and had to do that repair earlier this year.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/167-plasm ... ssues.html
Pagey wrote:Netflix will probably settle on a compression codec that will get 4K content down to the point that a 5 or 10Mbit connection will give some semblance of 4K via streaming, though it won't be able to fully compete with the high Mbps rates offered by the physical media some consortium decides on.
diesavagenation wrote:I just got a samsung pn64f8500 (64" inch flagship plasma) for $3k. I can barely go back to my old lcd tv because I notice the lack of details in the blacks and the lack of screen uniformity and motion blur. Go plasma until OLED are made to last and are affordable. You can't really tell the difference between 4k and 1080p on a tv that size, unless your closer than 7 feet or so anyways.
Forge wrote:I won't weigh in on the TVs themselves, but I think I can speak with some authority to media availability and future growth.
4K isn't happening in the timeframe you're looking at. At this point, with a little foresight, it would be very easy to implement a 1080p-centric system for today, that if and when 4K makes it big, you'll be able to switch out the TV and a few key components and be running wild at 4K.
Generally, for HTPC use, you'll want GPU decoding for every format possible, and right now something in the low to mid range Nvidia is your best bet. Personally, if I was starting over from scratch right now, I'd probably get one of Nvidia's Maxwell parts, with the largest heatsink area I could find, passive if possible. That's pretty ideal for video decode. Failing that, if the machine is a single purpose HTPC, a surprisingly low end card will get you the newest video decode block, so there's no point in anything higher end. My HTPC is currently using a laptop with a bad LCD (stripes), so I'm actually using a Core i5 mobile and the Intel HD 4000 graphics that entails. Works nicely, decodes smoothly, can't beat the price. My former and possibly future HTPC again is a Core 2 Quad and a GeForce GT 610. The 610 was cheap as anything, and has the full suite of fifth-generation video decode hardware.
If you get one of the Maxwell cards, that has Nvidia Purevideo feature set E, which includes hardware decode of h264 and VC-1 up to 4K resolution. Nothing on the market hardware decodes h265 yet, though.
Chrispy_ wrote:Hopefully the one thing that's clear from this thread explosion is that 4K is a long way off being "easy".
At the moment 4K is a laundry list of competing standards, usage caveats, high prices and limited choices.
diesavagenation wrote:Is $12K "affordable"?Go plasma until OLED are made to last and are affordable.