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Igor_Kavinski wrote:Here are some things that PISS me off:
2) I still can't buy a Helium sealed 6TB hard drive for under $300! What's taking so long????????
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Igor_Kavinski wrote:Here are some things that PISS me off:
1) This is 2014 and we still have hard drives that might silently lose data AKA bitrot. We have ZFS to save us but it isn't a mainstream filesystem (Not on Windoze). ReFS: not ready for prime time. And it needs the slow abomination that is Storage Spaces to recover from bitrot errors. I ask you: how hard could it be to design a filesystem that maintains parity bits so that bitrot errors never occur? Why aren't the hard drive makers designing RELIABLE hard drives? They could design one and call it the Infallible Edition or something and put a premium on it. If it's better at retaining data than the current sucky drives, people WILL pay. EYE will PAY.
2) I still can't buy a Helium sealed 6TB hard drive for under $300! What's taking so long????????
3) Why aren't today's operating systems more like hypervisors???? I should be able to freeze any process, save its state to disk and resume it whenever I want.
4) Why aren't applications more intelligent? Instead of throwing up errors and shutting down when they encounter sudden failure of some sort, why don't they offer to work AROUND the failure condition? Give us options! Don't just bloody blow up in our faces, taking our data and sanity with you :S
5) What is up with hybrid drives? There is NO competition in this space. Just Seagate out there with their paltry 8GB of MLC in their hybrids. How long is that gonna last? There should be at least 32GB of high endurance MLC in a hybrid. Sell it at a premium dammit but SELL IT!
Ari Atari wrote:Eh, I needed to type. I feel out of it for some reason.
@ Hz so good: Why use helium? Less drag. Why not just use nitrogen? It's basically just regular air. They use that lessened drag to improve power efficiency. Also a vacuum doesn't work because the external pressure would crush it.
Ari Atari wrote:The future will come, just not as fast as you'd like.
1. "Reliable" hard drives don't really exist, and they can't. The actual area on the HDD disk that a bit occupies is so small that random space radiation will ruin the data. Unfortunately physics ruins it. Also, a file system that protects against such an occurrence? I thought RAID 1 fixed that.
Hz so good wrote:Ari Atari wrote:Eh, I needed to type. I feel out of it for some reason.
@ Hz so good: Why use helium? Less drag. Why not just use nitrogen? It's basically just regular air. They use that lessened drag to improve power efficiency. Also a vacuum doesn't work because the external pressure would crush it.
Then what about argon and xenon? Those are used all the time in Glass glove boxes, when zero-oxygen environments are required for the experiments they're doing. And few of those actually use a vacuum.
What's the drag coefficient of other gases besides helium? Genuinely curious.
slowriot wrote:Ari Atari wrote:The future will come, just not as fast as you'd like.
1. "Reliable" hard drives don't really exist, and they can't. The actual area on the HDD disk that a bit occupies is so small that random space radiation will ruin the data. Unfortunately physics ruins it. Also, a file system that protects against such an occurrence? I thought RAID 1 fixed that.
RAID 1 does not protect against Bitrot. There is a good, recent thread on this topic here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=94296
Igor_Kavinski wrote:4) Why aren't applications more intelligent? Instead of throwing up errors and shutting down when they encounter sudden failure of some sort, why don't they offer to work AROUND the failure condition? Give us options! Don't just bloody blow up in our faces, taking our data and sanity with you :S
ssidbroadcast wrote:My turn:
It's 2014 and UPS doesn't have an app that allows you to GPS-locate the truck with your package on it. There's an app, but it doesn't track the trucks. If you have a tracking number you should be able to track the physical location of the package. You still have to wait for it to arrive at it's destination, of course, but at least you will know within ~1 to 2 hours time when it will show up.
And don't gimme that crap about security--BLAH BLAH, nobody's gonna "guess" my billion-digit-long tracking number at the precise right time. If that's still not enough security, then maybe have the app ask for the name of the intended recipient, or their birthday, whatever.
Igor_Kavinski wrote:I guess I'm more pissed because there just isn't enough innovation happening these days. We have a planet full of more than enough brilliant minds. They are just not putting their collective intelligence to good use and breaking new ground. I'm tired of seeing incremental improvements. I want mind blowing technology while I am still alive. Hate how we still have to program computers. Instead of wrestling with code, we should be able to design solutions intuitively in a visual manner. Like putting together Lego blocks. We are just so woefully behind what science fiction promised us in the 21st century. I hate how everyone uses the demand excuse to justify the lack of innovation. No one wanted an iPhone before it existed but that didn't stop Apple from making it. No one was crying for Android before they made it. Churning out more of the same with different flavors seems to be what everyone is doing these days. That sucks!
Igor_Kavinski wrote:I guess I'm more pissed because there just isn't enough innovation happening these days. We have a planet full of more than enough brilliant minds. They are just not putting their collective intelligence to good use and breaking new ground. I'm tired of seeing incremental improvements. I want mind blowing technology while I am still alive. Hate how we still have to program computers. Instead of wrestling with code, we should be able to design solutions intuitively in a visual manner. Like putting together Lego blocks. We are just so woefully behind what science fiction promised us in the 21st century. I hate how everyone uses the demand excuse to justify the lack of innovation. No one wanted an iPhone before it existed but that didn't stop Apple from making it. No one was crying for Android before they made it. Churning out more of the same with different flavors seems to be what everyone is doing these days. That sucks!
slowriot wrote:Ari Atari wrote:The future will come, just not as fast as you'd like.
1. "Reliable" hard drives don't really exist, and they can't. The actual area on the HDD disk that a bit occupies is so small that random space radiation will ruin the data. Unfortunately physics ruins it. Also, a file system that protects against such an occurrence? I thought RAID 1 fixed that.
RAID 1 does not protect against Bitrot. There is a good, recent thread on this topic here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=94296
ludi wrote:ssidbroadcast wrote:My turn:
It's 2014 and UPS doesn't have an app that allows you to GPS-locate the truck with your package on it. There's an app, but it doesn't track the trucks. If you have a tracking number you should be able to track the physical location of the package. You still have to wait for it to arrive at it's destination, of course, but at least you will know within ~1 to 2 hours time when it will show up.
And don't gimme that crap about security--BLAH BLAH, nobody's gonna "guess" my billion-digit-long tracking number at the precise right time. If that's still not enough security, then maybe have the app ask for the name of the intended recipient, or their birthday, whatever.
Your impatience to receive that package doesn't negate the fact that there ARE security issues associated with shipping. Plus, if the truck was trackable by consumers, every person on earth who is itching to either get a package or turn in a package would try to track down the nearest driver en-route and completely screw with the logistics of the route mapping. Keep in mind these are companies whose logistics software does things like eliminate left turns from the route in order to reduce total road time and save fuel.
MadManOriginal wrote:Can't you protect yourself from bitrot by making MD5 hashes of your important files and then checking them periodically? I suppose if you only keep one copy of the file that won't help but it's something...
just brew it! wrote:Igor_Kavinski wrote:I guess I'm more pissed because there just isn't enough innovation happening these days. We have a planet full of more than enough brilliant minds. They are just not putting their collective intelligence to good use and breaking new ground. I'm tired of seeing incremental improvements. I want mind blowing technology while I am still alive. Hate how we still have to program computers. Instead of wrestling with code, we should be able to design solutions intuitively in a visual manner. Like putting together Lego blocks. We are just so woefully behind what science fiction promised us in the 21st century. I hate how everyone uses the demand excuse to justify the lack of innovation. No one wanted an iPhone before it existed but that didn't stop Apple from making it. No one was crying for Android before they made it. Churning out more of the same with different flavors seems to be what everyone is doing these days. That sucks!
There's plenty of innovation happening these days. It just isn't the type of "gee whiz" sci-fi leap in innovation you seem to be wanting. Almost all technological advances are evolutionary, not revolutionary (and have been, throughout history).
ssidbroadcast wrote:Then don't show me the exact position of the driver. Show me a blinking "district" of the driver's approximate location (ala Final Fight,) and an approximate delivery time within 60 minutes of accuracy. Not a big ask!
derFunkenstein wrote:ssidbroadcast wrote:Then don't show me the exact position of the driver. Show me a blinking "district" of the driver's approximate location (ala Final Fight,) and an approximate delivery time within 60 minutes of accuracy. Not a big ask!
That's quite a bit to ask, honestly. I'd settle for a driver that actually knocks on the door instead of just leaving a tag and driving away.
just brew it! wrote:Actually in Unix-land the OS just delivers a segmentation violation signal (SIGSEGV). The OS default for this signal is for the application to exit, but you can install a signal handler for this signal and do other stuff.The most common type of application crash is caused by an invalid memory refefence, where the application has attempted to access a non-existent memory location or execute non-existent code. This is actually detected at the virtual memory manager level (down in the OS), not by the application. The OS has no idea what the application was trying to do; the *only* sensible thing for the OS to do in this situation is to terminate the application.
Losergamer04 wrote:I have to agree with the file system issue. I'm genuinely confused about why Microsoft has not come up with a better file system, especially for server use. Doesn't "bitrot" become more porbable when you have more bits packed even closer together?
Not only that, F2FS is just getting off the ground as SSD's are becoming ever more popular. Wouldn't an SSD work better, faster if it did not have to compensate for the legacy file systems?
notfred wrote:Actually in Unix-land the OS just delivers a segmentation violation signal (SIGSEGV). The OS default for this signal is for the application to exit, but you can install a signal handler for this signal and do other stuff.
In what I work on we have hardware doing DMA so need to shut off the hardware DMA before exiting, otherwise the memory would get freed back to the OS and then potentially handed out to something else that could suddenly find hardware scribbling over what the application was storing in the memory. After we shut off the DMA then we exit as per normal with the proper core dump so we have some hope of debugging and fixing what went wrong. Of course hilarity can ensue when your SIGSEGV handler also SIGSEGVs.
vargis14 wrote:Why does there have to be any gas in the big new drives at all....it is just freaking stupidity plain and simple. If you want to remove all air drag from any trace gas make sure the drive is air tight and build it in a vacuum. A vacuum is the most idea environment since they is zero air resistance.
Maybe I am wrong and they might need a little bit but it just does not seem logical. I believe a Vacuum is the answer...no wasted gasses etc. I think the benefits far out weigh the slight cost of manufacturing environment costs even though the vacuum could be added after the drive is built as a cheaper but possibly slower capacity...last I checked I do not own any factories.
just brew it! wrote:...the microscopic (just a couple of nanometers)...
Igor_Kavinski wrote:Here are some things that PISS me off:
1) This is 2014 and we still have hard drives that might silently lose data AKA bitrot. We have ZFS to save us but it isn't a mainstream filesystem (Not on Windoze). ReFS: not ready for prime time. And it needs the slow abomination that is Storage Spaces to recover from bitrot errors. I ask you: how hard could it be to design a filesystem that maintains parity bits so that bitrot errors never occur? Why aren't the hard drive makers designing RELIABLE hard drives? They could design one and call it the Infallible Edition or something and put a premium on it. If it's better at retaining data than the current sucky drives, people WILL pay. EYE will PAY.
2) I still can't buy a Helium sealed 6TB hard drive for under $300! What's taking so long????????
3) Why aren't today's operating systems more like hypervisors???? I should be able to freeze any process, save its state to disk and resume it whenever I want.
4) Why aren't applications more intelligent? Instead of throwing up errors and shutting down when they encounter sudden failure of some sort, why don't they offer to work AROUND the failure condition? Give us options! Don't just bloody blow up in our faces, taking our data and sanity with you :S
5) What is up with hybrid drives? There is NO competition in this space. Just Seagate out there with their paltry 8GB of MLC in their hybrids. How long is that gonna last? There should be at least 32GB of high endurance MLC in a hybrid. Sell it at a premium dammit but SELL IT!