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XorCist wrote:Hi all, the last few days I've been having some problems with my machine, and I think its due to high ram usage. After a fresh boot, i sit idle at desktop using 1.8g of ram. I have 8gigs installed. I am running win 7 x64 ultimate.
XorCist wrote:I know there used to be a program that would list all your startup programs so you can post it for people to help troubleshoot, but I can't recall the name of it.
arunphilip wrote:RAM usage is fine. However:
a) Do you have a paging file defined? Ideally, you should.
b) Is it configured correctly? Ideally, it should be set to 'Automatically manage'.
c) Are you shutting down other apps before starting DOTA? Ideally, you should.
With respect to your symptoms, I don't think its caused by RAM or GPU, as they appear adequate. I'm not familiar with the CPU, but a quick comparison against my CPU shows that its quite powerful, so I won't worry too much there.
That leads me onto your disk subsystem:
a) What hard disk/SSD are you using? If HDD, do you know its rotational speed?
b) In Resource Monitor, under the 'Storage' section, check the disk queue length. Ideally, it should be less than 1 when you're not doing anything. Double digit numbers will usually imply a lot of random access, and can be a cause of slowness/sluggishness.
JohnC wrote:XorCist wrote:Hi all, the last few days I've been having some problems with my machine, and I think its due to high ram usage. After a fresh boot, i sit idle at desktop using 1.8g of ram. I have 8gigs installed. I am running win 7 x64 ultimate.
The RAM usage is perfectly fine. Like others have said, look elsewhere for causes - maybe your HDD is too fragmented, or it is dying (OS detected high error rate and dropped the connection mode to slower PIO setting) or the cable's connector became loose (check the cables then run HDD benchmarks to check transfer rate), or your CPU/GPU cooling fan is dying and causing them to overheat and throttle down at certain point, etc. Try out other games to see if same thing affects them too.XorCist wrote:I know there used to be a program that would list all your startup programs so you can post it for people to help troubleshoot, but I can't recall the name of it.
Oh, there are a few of them. One of them is FRST, it can list everything you have running, as well as system log errors, permissions, registry settings, etc. You just download it, click on "Scan" button, it generates text files with everything listed. I don't think you need it right now, but it's useful for future references, especially when dealing with viruses/trojans/keyloggers.
http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/topic/33 ... scan-tool/
Flying Fox wrote:I thought I had enough too until I new'ed up enough Chrome tabs and then my system performance slows to become noticeable. Then I opened up Task Manager and although individually each chrome.exe does not take up too much, once you have 30+ it starts to add up.
XorCist wrote:Flying Fox wrote:I thought I had enough too until I new'ed up enough Chrome tabs and then my system performance slows to become noticeable. Then I opened up Task Manager and although individually each chrome.exe does not take up too much, once you have 30+ it starts to add up.
Yea my wife loves to leave open 10+ tabs with facebook and various facebook games. I have noticed tho, since I first posted this thread yesterday, I've kept chrome closed while gaming, and noticeable improvements are seen.
Flying Fox wrote:The multitude of chrome.exe instances will steal CPU cycles too, especially you have Flash and heavy Javascript stuff going on in those tabs. You should monitor total cpu% that all the chrome.exe instances are taking too.
Flatland_Spider wrote:Yup, Chrome eats lots of resources. One of my top reasons for sticking with Firefox.
just brew it! wrote:Flatland_Spider wrote:Yup, Chrome eats lots of resources. One of my top reasons for sticking with Firefox.
Yes, but...
Most any motherboard made in the past decade or so should be able to handle at least 8GB of RAM, and RAM is pretty cheap. So unless you're stuck on really old hardware or a 32-bit OS, there's really no excuse for having less than 8GB.
Flying Fox wrote:I don't think he meant that. I was actually saying that even at 8gigs it sometimes was not enough.
just brew it! wrote:Flying Fox wrote:I don't think he meant that. I was actually saying that even at 8gigs it sometimes was not enough.
TBH, yeah I have occasionally noticed that too; KDE + Chrome on Linux can be a bit of a resource pig, and will sometimes start to hit swap with 8GB of RAM when you open a lot of tabs. Both of my primary desktops (home and work) have 16GB these days. But I also tend to have a couple of VMs running, so that chews up a few gigs right off the top.
XorCist wrote:So i cloned that old PATA drive to a newer SATA drive (37000 hours+ on PATA, to 7000 hours on SATA) and my system is much more responsive. I'm working on cloning my C to a 200 gig partition on the same SATA drive....stupid me didnt partition it, as the same size and am running into issues trying to clone it since I made it smaller
I'm trying to shrink the existing C partition, but its sat there at querying for over 15 minutes now
apparently shrinking isnt an option....
original C partition size is 233GB, on the new drive I made the partition only 200GB since I only used 105GB of the 233