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Team Rage3D on our conquest list?

Postposted on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:29 pm

Looks like Team Rage3d has taken some major production hits lately. Of course, everyone's line is sliding down and to the right lately, but theirs is falling faster than most... to the point where they're actually on our conquest linst now! (A long way off, mind you, but they're there, and that's the important part.) Anyone know what happened? They lose a big folder?

Surely this is worthy of a front-page news update? Honestly, we could use a little publicity, and I'm willing to do what I can, harass who I need to, hump someone's leg if I gotta, or even (shudder) write it myself if that's what it comes down to.

DrFish, you're da man with da previous experience in this field. How do we go about making this happen?
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Postposted on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:31 pm

They are bowing the superior forces, obviously 8)
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Postposted on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:45 pm

it's just HOW's corp borg getting re-imaged which happens every so often, at least that's the usual reason...back in the days something like this would cut their production to half of their normal, so i guess a) how's borgs are not pulling as much weight nowadays b) work unit sucks(true for everyone) or c) how's ex-employer/coworker stopped maintaining those after he left...
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Re: Team Rage3D on our conquest list?

Postposted on Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:00 pm

Bookrat wrote:Surely this is worthy of a front-page news update? Honestly, we could use a little publicity, and I'm willing to do what I can, harass who I need to, hump someone's leg if I gotta, or even (shudder) write it myself if that's what it comes down to.

DrFish, you're da man with da previous experience in this field. How do we go about making this happen?


I've known the criteria for bringing back the update for two weeks now. Damage and I have tossed some emails back and forth and have things figured out. KingFish and Tarx are on board to help with the update and I know they're ready to go at a moment's notice...

So what I'm saying is that I'm pretty much the only thing holding it up. I have excuses but I won't use any of them here, it's my responsibility.

KingFish and Tarx are overdue for an email from me to make everything final, but you're right Bookrat, if ever we needed some news on the front page it's now (even if it's just becase How??? is down, we're still much closer than we have been recently). It'll get done.
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Postposted on Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:51 pm

Maph wrote:it's just HOW's corp borg getting re-imaged which happens every so often, at least that's the usual reason...


We hope so. How never posts in our forums so we never know what's going on when these kinda things happen. I guess in 5 years if How hasn't regained his PPD then you guys can claim victory ;)

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Re: Team Rage3D on our conquest list?

Postposted on Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:34 pm

drfish wrote:It'll get done.

Good to hear, doctor, and thanks for the information. I know I'm new around here, but let me know if I can do anything.

In case you needed one more reason for a news update, Team MacOS X showed on our threat list as of the 3pm update today. Granted, with an absolute difference of ~39 million, and their current gain at something like 317 per day, they'll catch us sometime in the year 2525 (if man is still alive) ... but that's not the point!

(Also, I note that their MacOS X's Daily Production graph is the only one I've seen that's even remotely close to flat... so they're putting up a good struggle to keep their numbers up.)

So, if ever we needed a news update, now is definitely the time. Thanks for stepping into the breach, fish!
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Re: Team Rage3D on our conquest list?

Postposted on Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:58 pm

Bookrat wrote: in the year 2525 (if man is still alive) ...


http://www.jacquedee63.com/intheyear2525.html

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Postposted on Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:43 pm

Cool link there Cheesyking! 8) I was like ....................... rocking out there for a while. :wink:
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Postposted on Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:15 pm

Taking a quick look at the stats, it seems that How's borg IS the reason why their production dropped.

Taking a quick look at the graph, it looks like they dropped about 30K points per day, and looking at How's graph, you see the same picture.

This may be temporary, who knows... but we can take this opportunity to close the gap.

Personally, I just borged a P4 3.2 server at school, and I have a professor that's pretty enthusiastic about the whole thing, so I may be able to borg an entire lab (including another server or two).

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Postposted on Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:12 pm

Ttocs wrote:Personally, I just borged a P4 3.2 server at school, and I have a professor that's pretty enthusiastic about the whole thing, so I may be able to borg an entire lab (including another server or two).


WTG!

Most schools seem to be cheap when it comes to something like this, but if you can get your foot in door then I say go for it. Though I fold for the other side, in the end it's not about points, its about the progress, which has no team name.

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Postposted on Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:25 pm

absolutefunk wrote:in the end it's not about points, its about the progress, which has no team name.

Of course there is, it's Team Humanity. :)
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Postposted on Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:54 pm

absolutefunk wrote:
Ttocs wrote:Personally, I just borged a P4 3.2 server at school, and I have a professor that's pretty enthusiastic about the whole thing, so I may be able to borg an entire lab (including another server or two).


WTG!

Most schools seem to be cheap when it comes to something like this, but if you can get your foot in door then I say go for it. Though I fold for the other side, in the end it's not about points, its about the progress, which has no team name.

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Yeah, I was assigned a project (that I volunteered for - in lieu of other busywork) that required me to setup a linux server and set it up as a web server. I was "load testing" it, and I talked to him about folding. I also mentioned that we can install it on the other machines in the lab, and he seemed pretty cool with the idea. They're not on all the time, but they're on at least a good portion of the day. This is at a University, by the way.

It's not a normal lab, per se (as in, the ones run by our Instructional Technology department), but this is one lab that is run by my professor.

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Postposted on Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:46 am

Flying Fox wrote:Of course there is, it's Team Humanity. :)


Ahh yes, good ol Team Humanity! We can all hold our heads high when something gets cured cause of this (though Stanford can just alittle bit more hehe).

hehe, "Load testing". F@H works better than most. Saying your rig is "Prime stable" or something doesn't show much. F@H stable is where the action is ;) Once I get into the upper level classes at my school I may be able to propose something like F@H. Knowing my luck my school prolly already is doing something dumb like Seti...

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Postposted on Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:51 am

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Postposted on Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:39 pm

Now we're on Team MacOS X's overtake list. :o
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Postposted on Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:44 pm

Ragnar Dan wrote:Now we're on Team MacOS X's overtake list. :o


Bookrat wrote:In case you needed one more reason for a news update, Team MacOS X showed on our threat list as of the 3pm update today.


tangent: Wouldn't it be nice if people could donate unused lifecycles to worthy projects as well? We could all donate five minutes to DrFish, and bam! He'd have an extra half-dozen (or more) hours in which to complete the news update.

Man, that will be the day.
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Postposted on Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:50 pm

Whoops. Sorry, read it and forgot about it in 2 days. :wink:
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Postposted on Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:50 am

Yesterday was our best day in a month, and as a result, the slope of our production graph is now pointed upwards for the first time since I got here! Woohoo!

Also, as of the 9am update this morning we are catching up to both 2CPU and Rage3d at a rate of over 20k points per day! Time to strike while the iron is hot!

Dr. Fish, where's that update?! <poke> <poke> <poke>
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Postposted on Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:39 am

I'm going to write it tonight and send it in to Damage... Some crazy stuff has been happening and all my time after work has been spoken for except for maybe about an hour a day that I save for myself at all costs to keep me sane, weekends are no better (except for last weekend when I spent Saturday at a fish auction; my aquariums are keeping me sane).

...but tonight my wife will be going with her sister back to the hospital to check on her brother-in-law (who's been readmitted into the cancer ward after being home for a week after his surgery and managing to accumulate 50lbs of fluid in his abdomen in addition to whatever he's dripped out onto the floor during that time) so I'll have the house to myself and no other responsibilities...
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Postposted on Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:49 pm

You can always post the outlines of what you've written up so far here somewhere, and see all our comments if you're not quite happy with it.

Of course, then you'll have to edit and choose among things, but there's always some sort of tradeoffs. :wink:
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Postposted on Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:30 pm

Sorry to hear that drfish - I hope he'll make it...
My mom is back in chemo (she was in it for most of last year) after cancer has spread again this time from the liver to the lungs. But she still has a fairly good chance to pull through, but will need more surgery and then even more chemo...
Anyway, from the folding point of view, although some advanced on cancer should arrive in the next few years from folding, they don't expect it will be like Alzheimer's, where a significant breakthrough with folding is rumored to be expected in the next few years...
Cancer is of course so varied, it is more like a whole set of diseases with one title. The types of cancer folding is analyzing (i.e. about half of them - those that are related with protein folding) will take quite a bit more time to crack.
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Postposted on Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:21 am

In case you were wondering I didn't submit an update to Damage last week. I'm not quite sure what chain of events prevented me from writing it but I do remember looking at the clock on Thursday night and seeing it was 9:30 already and knowing I wasn't going to get to it.

...but it's more than finding the time to write one update, by starting up the update again I'm making a big commitment that I'm not sure I want to stick with. I know I have help in the form of Tarx and KingFish but its ultimately my baby and I wouldn't feel right pulling out later on and leaving them to deal with it (which I could see happening) and I don't want to do it if I'm not enjoying it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about folding and the team, I maintain that I have not yet begun to fold and that leor's dreams of overtaking me are foolhardy at best. In fact my points are in a bit of a slump now because I took my dedicated home farm down to move it to a bigger board and maybe switch to network booting (after I added jeffry's nodes to my hanging setup things got even more ugly) and once it's up and running again I should be back on top.

The thing is it takes a lot less time to add boxen and keep machines fed with bandwidth and electricity than it does to write updates, run contests, and try to keep the team motivated in general. I've always considered those things to be my biggest contribution to the team, much more important than my points overall, so saying that I don't think I can/want to do those things like I used to feels like quitting to me and makes it a very hard decision... So hard that for a long time I kept myself believing that somehow I'd get things back to the way they used to be, but I'm admitting now that it's not likely to happen any time soon.

...but it's not like I'm really going anywhere, even though I know now that I'm not the guy you want running the update... It pains me to say it but you guys deserve my complete honesty...

Speaking of honesty you can blame my sudden renewed interest in fishkeeping for taking time from folding. Don't be surprised to see a thread or two in The Back Porch about my tanks in the near future... I'm an aquarist again and it feels great!

Wow, I feel better already letting you know what's going on, it's been a TREMENDOUS source of stress for me! :)

I hope you all understand...
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Postposted on Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:25 am

We appreciate you and all the hard work you do, Fishy boy :D
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Postposted on Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:08 am

As of now

100 Days til we take 7th spot from 2CPU (20k gain a day!!)
278 Days til we take 6th spot from Rage3d! (30k gain a day!!)

If we can nail home this advantage and take them by surprise, nows our chance fellow folders!!

Dr Fish, sorry to hear you've been having a hard time of late. The work you've put into the TR distributed computing effort is greatly appreciated and i speak on behalf of many by saying much fun has been had thanks to the hard work of yourself and the other main contributors.
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Postposted on Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:34 am

MorgZ wrote:
Dr Fish, sorry to hear you've been having a hard time of late. The work you've put into the TR distributed computing effort is greatly appreciated and i speak on behalf of many by saying much fun has been had thanks to the hard work of yourself and the other main contributors.


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Postposted on Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:17 pm

Not to take away anything from you drfish, but *may be* it is time to let the baby go? I am sure the other guys will do a fine job in keeping with tradition?
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Postposted on Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:57 pm

Flying Fox wrote:Not to take away anything from you drfish, but *may be* it is time to let the baby go?


I think he already did, FF; at least, that's how I read this:

drfish wrote:... by starting up the update again I'm making a big commitment that I'm not sure I want to stick with.

... saying that I don't think I can/want to do those things like I used to feels like quitting to me and makes it a very hard decision... So hard that for a long time I kept myself believing that somehow I'd get things back to the way they used to be, but I'm admitting now that it's not likely to happen any time soon.

... Wow, I feel better already letting you know what's going on, it's been a TREMENDOUS source of stress for me! :)


DrFish, I completely understand where you are coming from. I've backed out of things that I started myself, but which I no longer had the time (or inclination) to continue... and it always feels like 'quitting' in a way, which never sits right. In some ways, it is 'quitting'... but you know what? That's alright. No person is one thing forever, and no person can sustain the exact same level of interest in something forever. It will either rise or fall (or both, over the long term). If the thing is important, though, then the requisite duty you (me, all of us) have is to ensure that it's being handled by someone who cares about it like you (be honest) used to, and that it's being looked after. If you've done that, then you've done your duty and you have nothing to feel guilty about. (As long as you keep folding for team 2630, that is. ;))

I, for one, was never asking anyone to commit to a weekly, or even bi-weekly update schedule. I'm not sure that we have enough 'news' on a regular basis to do something like that. Seems to me that we should be able to scrape up enough general interest stuff once a month or so, anyway... and that'll be enough to keep it in most regular readers' minds. It sounds like you've got enough helpers to be able to handle something like that, but I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is and offer whatever assistance I can if anyone needs me.

Thanks for doing it in the past, DrF, and thanks for being honest about the current state of things. Have fun with your fish!
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Postposted on Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:36 am

So, drfish, now that you've got that off your chest, I hope you won't be offended if I ask these two straightforward questions:
1) Who, if anyone, is now going to take up the reins of getting some front-page newsposts made?
2) Is there anything I can do to help?
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