Dr. Evil, I'm coming for you

[Ragnar Dan]

Dr. Evil: Still slowly catching you, though you keep pushing me behind.

Something has happened to just brew it!'s output, by the way. Hopefully he's on vacation or something.

notfred: I ran that apt-get you mentioned above, but... what's the executable name, and where is it? I can't find whatever it is that was installed, though a "find / -name tftp -print" showed me some header files.

[Usacomp2k3]

To search, you want to do 'apt-cache search tftp' in this case.

[notfred]

I ran that apt-get you mentioned above, but... what's the executable name, and where is it? I can't find whatever it is that was installed, though a "find / -name tftp -print" showed me some header files.

If you want to find what a package just installed, then

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cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/<blah>.list

I don't think you will care about the executable name, you want it to be started at boot, so edit /etc/default/tftpd-hpa and change RUN_DAEMON="no" to .RUN_DAEMON="yes" (with whatever editor you like, but you need to do it as sudo), and then you can

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sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start

You just need to put your files in /var/lib/tftpboot/ and it should all work.[/code]

[Ragnar Dan]

If you want to find what a package just installed, then

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cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/<blah>.list

I don't think you will care about the executable name, you want it to be started at boot, so edit /etc/default/tftpd-hpa and change RUN_DAEMON="no" to .RUN_DAEMON="yes" (with whatever editor you like, but you need to do it as sudo), and then you can

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sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start

You just need to put your files in /var/lib/tftpboot/ and it should all work.

That /var/lib/dpkg/info thing did it. Thanks. Every time I learn something new, something else has to leave my brain. Really, it just doesn't seem to stick in there very well unless I really need it. And the truth about the tftp thing is, I don't really have much use for it. If I was running your CD, maybe.

[Ragnar Dan]

Dr. Evil: Lend me some of the spinach you're feeding your machines today.

[Damage]

Dr. Evil: Lend me some of the spinach you're feeding your machines today.

Dan, I like you lots, but I have a confession. Andy has been a friend since high school, and I just happened to have a pre-production test box with dual Xeon 5160s laying around... and a Radeon X1900 XT. Andy offered them a good home with lots of electricity and network connectivity, so.....

He says the Xeons alone are turning in 1167 points every 24 hours. I'm bugging him to add the X1900 XT to the mix.

Hey, it's for a good cause, right?

[Dr. Evil]

He says the Xeons alone are turning in 1167 points every 24 hours.

Actually, I said the Xeons alone are turning in 1167 points every TEN hours. It's a little crazy watching the SMP client tick off percentage points every six minutes, but I'm coping.

[flybywire]

He says the Xeons alone are turning in 1167 points every 24 hours.

Actually, I said the Xeons alone are turning in 1167 points every TEN hours. It's a little crazy watching the SMP client tick off percentage points every six minutes, but I'm coping.

That's one problem I'd like to have to be able to cope with myself.

[Usacomp2k3]

That is so not fair

[BenWang]

That is so not fair

Whats not fair? Dr E's and Wire's OCD? I'm sure they'll let you join the club if u pass the secret initiation rite.

[Usacomp2k3]

That is so not fair

Whats not fair? Dr E's and Wire's OCD? I'm sure they'll let you join the club if u pass the secret initiation rite.

That damage lets people borrow such purdy hardware

[Nitrodist]

Xeon, eh? What's it clocked at? I'm assuming you're talking about the quad core solution.

[Ragnar Dan]

Dan, I like you lots, but I have a confession. Andy has been a friend since high school, and I just happened to have a pre-production test box with dual Xeon 5160s laying around... and a Radeon X1900 XT. Andy offered them a good home with lots of electricity and network connectivity, so.....

He says the Xeons alone are turning in 1167 points every 24 hours. I'm bugging him to add the X1900 XT to the mix.

Hey, it's for a good cause, right?

Hmph. I think I'll quit warning him when I get close to catching him, if that ever happens again which isn't looking likely right now, especially with Stanford seemingly punishing me by not giving me any new SMP WU's. It's been > 14 hours now and nothing. (Edit: Fixed it by disabling -advmethods).

Nitrodist: 2 dual-core Xeons, each at 3.0 GHz stock. The WU's he's getting look to be ones I've never received, which may be because they'd take forever on my machine, though that assumes more intelligent behavior on Stanford's part than I've ever seen.

2nd edit: For all the good cause, our team's PPD has been dropping lately, and it looks bad right now. Hopefully that's because it's a weekend, but maybe some are having the same problems I had getting a new WU. If so, one would think all teams would be affected, but our chasers are catching us faster, and our prey are not falling back as much as we are.

[Ragnar Dan]

Dr. Evil: I'm catching you at a fairly quick pace, lately. Almost all on account of my Gigabyte 8800GT giving me ~5000 PPD. Cheap folding power, at least for the present. And they run on slower old machines.

I've even passed just brew it!, which I didn't expect to happen for a long time, if ever.

[Aphasia]

Gah, i just did a post, then lost connection to the fora. oh well.

Anyway. I havent done any folding/rd5/seti in a while, and when i last did, i had the run of a small IT-department to give me cycles. But I've been thinking abit about it. So, im wondering how much a single comp or perhaps two can do. And how much would that contribute to the whole for the team. Although right now i only have a single comp thats on 24/7, and thats my Core 2 E6550 file/web/mail-server. The workstation is only on when im at home right now. The problem i have at home is related to heat management and power in my flat though. Which is why i dont run them all day round. Bit expensive, and the room gets too darn hot.

But how much could a fully featured Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 running at 3GHz or perhaps 3.2GHz to together with a ATI 4870(if it can take folding) actually produce. I do need something to perform stresstesting with when i try out the above overclock so to speak

[Ragnar Dan]

This is probably not the best thread to ask your questions in, but I'll try as best I can to answer anyway.

Right now Team 2630 is producing slightly above 500000 points per day. If you ran a Q9450 at 3200 MHz as a dedicated folding machine with no GPU help you could produce over 4000 Points Per Day before the recent updated folding cores were released. Now, easily in excess of 5000 PPD, probably in the range of 5500-6000 PPD. That would mean your machine alone would be more than 1 per cent of our current output. Of course, this would be running 2 SMP clients with each getting 2 cores.

As for the 4870 GPU, I think they produce over 1000 PPD, but I forget the numbers people in this forum have reported. You can search on 4870 if you want. Over at the folding forum there's a chart that makes claims of around 2000 PPD, but i'm somewhat suspicious of it because of the numbers on the nVidia chart in the same forum (different subforum).

The only way to use the GPU client is in Windows. The best way to do that presently appears to be under Vista, because it seems to use a lot less CPU time than Windows XP does. Pegasus has been running a Q9450 and an nVidia GPU, and I think he's using VMWare to run the Linux SMP client on cores 0 and 1, and then another Linux SMP client on cores 1 and 2, leaving core 3 free for the GPU. Or something like that...

Your other Intel box with the E6550 in it, you could probably fold on it and lose little responsiveness, but it would produce more heat and draw more electricity. It's up to you. You can always test it and see how you like it. If you're running Linux it is much more reliable than what people report about Windows SMP clients.

You could run the standard console client on your workstation. They have long enough deadlines (31 days for the ones I'm currently folding, for example) that they'd still be useful, if not a huge difference. But many small contributions can make a difference. Every bit helps.

[Aphasia]

Thank you. Thats a really good write up really. I run Vista x64 on the workstation and Win 2003 x64 with a few VM's on top on the server. So that should work decently if start. If i put everything i have on folding i could probably manage 10'000 PPD a day or something, which is a decent amount really it seems. Oh well, i might try it for a while. Especially in winter when it starts getting cold anyway.

Thanks again for the write up.

[Ragnar Dan]

If you've tried getting it running yet, what username are you folding under?

[Aphasia]

Havent had the time yet, I quaked under the pressure from a friend and managed to get hooked on Battlefield 2 instead. Had to have something that at least tried to use my 4870...

I hope to have time trying the overclocking and getting around to doing the serious stuff this weekend. But if its available it would be the same as my nick, which doesnt seem to be taken yet from what i can find.

[Ragnar Dan]

I think that as long as the team number you join doesn't have that name then you can use it, though it's been so long since I started this stuff that I'm not certain about it. I have the vague memory, though, that I've looked up names on Stanford's stats page and that some of them reported a list of team names/numbers and figures in separate boxes.

(I just checked it, since it's easy enough to do, and yeah, it does that.)

[Ragnar Dan]

Dr. Evil: I'm catching you at a fairly quick pace, lately. Almost all on account of my Gigabyte 8800GT giving me ~5000 PPD. Cheap folding power, at least for the present. And they run on slower old machines.

I'm still catching you, though more slowly since my fastests SMP client is much slower though currently running again, and the other 2 are folding WU's that take lengthy periods to complete and deliver few points for the effort. Even so, it should be 5 days or so before I pass you. And that would be a darned shame, especially since you at least used to have all of that potential folding power available.

[Ragnar Dan]

I passed the formerly Evil sawbones 2-3 days ago, and not a peep from the zombie. Normally they moan or something. Though, admittedly, they also try to eat your brains. A couple of nVidia-GPU'ed video cards and and it would have been a contest. Heck, even an ATI would have helped.

Sure, the electricity isn't cheap, but it's not that bad.

I've been losing steam lately, too, but it was mostly temporary. Still, it's a shame when someone with Damage's help can't fend off a minor irritant like me.

[Gerbil Jedidiah]

I passed the formerly Evil sawbones 2-3 days ago, and not a peep from the zombie. Normally they moan or something. Though, admittedly, they also try to eat your brains. A couple of nVidia-GPU'ed video cards and and it would have been a contest. Heck, even an ATI would have helped.

Sure, the electricity isn't cheap, but it's not that bad.

I've been losing steam lately, too, but it was mostly temporary. Still, it's a shame when someone with Damage's help can't fend off a minor irritant like me.

Yeah, it's a real let-down when your competition gives up. *cough* Leor *cough*

[jeffry55]

I passed the formerly Evil sawbones 2-3 days ago, and not a peep from the zombie. Normally they moan or something. Though, admittedly, they also try to eat your brains. A couple of nVidia-GPU'ed video cards and and it would have been a contest. Heck, even an ATI would have helped.

Sure, the electricity isn't cheap, but it's not that bad.

I've been losing steam lately, too, but it was mostly temporary. Still, it's a shame when someone with Damage's help can't fend off a minor irritant like me.

Yeah, it's a real let-down when your competition gives up. *cough* Leor *cough*

I think it is just a setup from Leor. He is going to "pretend" he doesn't care and that his ego isn't fragile and that he can tolerate being thumped by a band of furry rodents even though he detests the idea of a "subteam". He is going to pull some points out of his butt when we get close and post some pictures of his new "Whiz-Bang, Whamodyne" folding farm. Yeah, that's what he's gonna do.

[steelcity_ballin]

Once the cooler weather sets in, I'll be running dualcore smp, + gpu + work machine, and possibly a ps3.

[Jigar]

I passed the formerly Evil sawbones 2-3 days ago, and not a peep from the zombie. Normally they moan or something. Though, admittedly, they also try to eat your brains. A couple of nVidia-GPU'ed video cards and and it would have been a contest. Heck, even an ATI would have helped.

Sure, the electricity isn't cheap, but it's not that bad.

I've been losing steam lately, too, but it was mostly temporary. Still, it's a shame when someone with Damage's help can't fend off a minor irritant like me.

Yeah, it's a real let-down when your competition gives up. *cough* Leor *cough*

I think it is just a setup from Leor. He is going to "pretend" he doesn't care and that his ego isn't fragile and that he can tolerate being thumped by a band of furry rodents even though he detests the idea of a "subteam". He is going to pull some points out of his butt when we get close and post some pictures of his new "Whiz-Bang, Whamodyne" folding farm. Yeah, that's what he's gonna do.

I think Leor doesn't have that much fire power with him, he might be able to produce 50K ppd, but that will still not help him from stopping the mighty power of UGN. Currently we are even out producing the undisputed folding champion of TR, Segfault7...

[jeffry55]

Once the cooler weather sets in, I'll be running dualcore smp, + gpu + work machine, and possibly a ps3.

I hope Fall comes early to Pittsburg!

[Ragnar Dan]

Yeah, it's a real let-down when your competition gives up. *cough* Leor *cough*

Especially when he could have put up a fight.

I'm also waiting for Aphasia to return and show us something.