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Server maintenance this weekend

Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:55 am

We're working on the servers this weekend, and you can probably expect some down time as a result. Shouldn't last too terribly long, but it's unavoidable.
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:00 pm

I noticed , hopefully the opties are doing fine
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:11 pm

OMG!!!! No TR!!!!

*gouges out eyes*

*huddles in the corner*

The end of the world is coming.

LOL!
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:15 pm

well that was disorienting. :lol:
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:20 pm

What happened to the theme? It's switched over to some sucky fixed-width thing that wastes most of my screen real estate.
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:26 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
What happened to the theme? It's switched over to some sucky fixed-width thing that wastes most of my screen real estate.

seems intentional (not Damage himself, but the first post I could find...:lol:)
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:33 pm

When they fubar'ed subSky to use a fixed width, they also re-introduced the bug where hyper-links are invisible (like this).

WS Darkblue still doesn't work properly. Quoted text is white on white, for example.

subSilver shows hyperlinks, but it's also been wrecked to use only a fixed narrow portion of my screen. :(

I was okay with changes to the main site web page. I didn't know that there were plans to mess up my ability to read the forums.
 
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:40 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
What happened to the theme? It's switched over to some sucky fixed-width thing that wastes most of my screen real estate.

Yeah, it's terrible... squeezed down to like 1/3rd of the horizontal width of my browser. Bleh. I can choose between a theme that hurts my eyes or one that is squished.
 
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:45 pm

It looks like the crappy fixed width is about 960 pixels. My monitor is 2560 pixels wide. I have not owned a 1024x768 display since 1993. :(
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:49 pm

Scott, could you widen the width to where you had it before?
 
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JustAnEngineer wrote:
It looks like the crappy fixed width is about 960 pixels. My monitor is 2560 pixels wide.

Yep, same here. :(
 
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OMG , this sucks
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:06 pm

Ummm....something needs to be done regarding the size of the left column with usernames and such in it and the length of allowed "location" text. idchafee's (first one I noticed) posts are all now fairly gigantic to give it enough space.
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:07 pm

SNM wrote:
Ummm....something needs to be done regarding the size of the left column with usernames and such in it and the length of allowed "location" text. idchafee's (first one I noticed) posts are all now fairly gigantic to give it enough space.

Like what I posted in The other thread
 
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:08 pm

SNM wrote:
Ummm....something needs to be done regarding the size of the left column with usernames and such in it and the length of allowed "location" text. idchafee's (first one I noticed) posts are all now fairly gigantic to give it enough space.

I think his posts in particular are going to be relatively "tall" due to the sig graphic...but even then, a post of more than 2 or 3 lines looks pretty normal to me.
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:09 pm

derFunkenstein wrote:
I think his posts in particular are going to be relatively "tall" due to the sig graphic...but even then, a post of more than 2 or 3 lines looks pretty normal to me.

From where I'm sitting he's got a gigantic blank space four times as long as his sig pic is in his recent Bargain Basement posts. :wink:
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:11 pm

Image

I think this screenshot explains it. On the left is IE7. On the right is Firefox 2.0.0.6

The spacing is different, borderline broken in Firefox (or broken in IE and changed for compatibility's sake in Firefox)

Also explains why the lines that read:

Forum rules Home FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups
Profile You have no new messages Log out [ derFunkenstein ]

Are spaced so closely together in IE...
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:22 pm

And it's actually much worse than that on my 1024*768 FF2.0.0.6.
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:24 pm

It also depends on the thread, not just on the browser.

In any case, wider forums are coming. In fact, a wider site is coming. Check out the front page article Damage put up. Here's the money quote:

Damage wrote:
We intend to add a wider version of our CSS templates, complete with a button like the blue switch, fairly soon.


Also, I should add that we will be moving to phpBB3 fairly soon. So this limits the amount of work that we want to do on old phpBB2 forum themes. Hopefully we can address major concerns with subSky and subSilver (the other theme is not supported).
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:26 pm

Sorry about that. I'll remove it.

edit: done
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:26 pm

For those using the fubar'ed subSky theme with the invisible hyper-links, Kevin posted this in his message:
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/13087
 
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:26 pm

Well, my screenshots are from the exact same thread, so I tried to eliminate other factors. The fixed-width forums were a big help in that case.
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:28 pm

That's the link that Kevin put in his message. Because hyper-links are now invisible in subSky, you have to wave your mouse pointer around to find the hidden links.

For phpBB 3.0, I've been satisfied with the AquaGlass theme that we're using at http://www.trgw.com , except that the quote line is a low-contrast dark font on dark background that makes it hard to read who's being quoted.
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:29 pm

yeah, i re-read what you wrote, that's why i deleted the post...sorry
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:33 pm

Thanks for finding these issues. They'll be addressed and hopefully fixed very soon... just not tonight.

The team is still watching everything carefully and fixing several small problems. Continue to post anything else you notice that isn't working.
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:51 pm

gratuitous wrote:
And I asked, correct me if I'm mistaken, but the front page font has gotten smaller, too. My old tired eyes are having a hell of a time reading it. Don't suppose this can be re-sized?
Yes, the site is using smaller fonts. This is probably related to the attempt to cram three columns of text into a fixed width less than 1000 pixels wide. You can compensate for the problem in FireFox by holding down the ctrl key and rolling your center mouse wheel. In Internet Explorer, font size is a menu option.

At least you can still re-size fonts on TR. When ESPN went to their skinny fixed width format several years ago, they also set the font sizes so that they could not be increased by your browser. I quit visiting that site because of it.
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:06 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:
It looks like the crappy fixed width is about 960 pixels.

Here is a greasemonkey script I hacked up to "fix" the forum layout back to the width I like...

// ==UserScript==
// @name            TRThemeModify
// @namespace       http://www.techreport.com/forums/greasy
// @description     Messes with the TR theme
// @include         http://www.techreport.com/forums/*
// @include         http://techreport.com/forums/*
// ==/UserScript==

(function() {
   function pageRestructure()
   {
          var head, next;
          head = document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0];
          if (!head) { return; }
          var last = head.lastChild;
          for (;; last = next) {
            next = last.previousSibling;
            if(last.type == "text/css" && last.href.match("style.css")) {
              head.removeChild(last);
            }
          }
        };

   var restructure = new pageRestructure();
})();
// END FILE

A more precise one would replace the child with another copy of style.css that has the fixed width removed. :)

Edit: fixed include header
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:09 pm

bitvector wrote:
Here is a greasemonkey script I hacked up to "fix" the forum layout back to the width I like...

And pray, how can one make use of such a script?

<-- -never messed with such stuff in Firefox.
 
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morphine wrote:
And pray, how can one make use of such a script?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748
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