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z-man wrote:Ditto, You'll have to pry mine out of my cold dead hands.
NeRve wrote:Those Dell 2407fpw LCDs looks sweet (makes my 19-inch look tiny). I was wondering if any of you guys owned one yourself and how you think it is?
BenBasson wrote:I'm sitting in front of one right now. I'm giving serious thought to adding a 2407WFP-HC to my desk as well - these are truly great monitors.
They're not the best for gaming, but they're good enough that it hasn't yet bothered me. I'm not some kind of crazy gaming elitist anyway, I (gasp, shock, horror) even game with a wireless mouse.
NeRve wrote:Crappy TN-based 24" LCDs below $300. They're hardly comparable.Wow - I guess 2407fpw-HC is the winner... I am still waiting for them to go down even more - with 24-LCDs below $300 during Black Friday, I'm still having a hard time swallowing $600 for a monitor...
NeRve wrote:No. The LED backlight gives more contrast and color gamut.So if I get a panel with a LTM240M2 panel, does it mean it's even better than the 2407fpw-HC? (I know the 2407fpw are essentially repackaged Samsungs)
Dell often switches panels, and even panel vendors, without changing the model number. I don't know if Samsung is till even producing the older panel, so it may Dell has switched over to the LTM240M2 or LTM240L2 -- and what you get may depend on where you buy (eg Europe vs US) and how long the stock has been sitting around.BTW - in this review it says both the 2407fpw and the 244T are the same panels
http://www.behardware.com/articles/629- ... -244t.html
NeRve wrote:What's Dell's Policy on Dead Pixels? If I was to get a 2407fpw with some Dead Pixels - could I exchange it? This is the one reason I have always previously bought my LCDs at B&M stores...
Voldenuit wrote:Is there an advantage to using LED backlights aside from ahieving a slimmer profile? Which is why they're being used in laptops.
I could imagine how they can turn off LEDs selectively to improve dynamic contrast (I remember reading about 1 HDTV that does this), but I don't think any PC monitors have implemented this.
In theory, LEDs don't have flicker, but in practice, CCFLS used in monitors refresh at 180Hz which is undetectable to the human eye.
NeRve wrote:What's Dell's Policy on Dead Pixels? If I was to get a 2407fpw with some Dead Pixels - could I exchange it? This is the one reason I have always previously bought my LCDs at B&M stores...
Synchromesh wrote:Yep (read the title of that page carefully for a little laugh). In practice, it's been a while since this dead pixels were much of an issue. There was a time when I wouldn't consider buying an LCD I couldn't turn on and test first, but lately you just don't run across many panels with even a single fault.NeRve wrote:I think the industry standard is 5. If you have less than 5 they won't exchange.What's Dell's Policy on Dead Pixels? If I was to get a 2407fpw with some Dead Pixels - could I exchange it? This is the one reason I have always previously bought my LCDs at B&M stores...
blitzy wrote:Thanks. It was indeed a typo.I think that was a typo by FF, LCD = LED
Voldenuit wrote:Apart from better contrast, power consumption is another factor which is more important on laptops. Every bit helps on the desktop too I guess.Is there an advantage to using LED backlights aside from ahieving a slimmer profile? Which is why they're being used in laptops.
I could imagine how they can turn off LEDs selectively to improve dynamic contrast (I remember reading about 1 HDTV that does this), but I don't think any PC monitors have implemented this.
In theory, LEDs don't have flicker, but in practice, CCFLS used in monitors refresh at 180Hz which is undetectable to the human eye.