Personal computing discussed
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bthylafh wrote:Then I have a swap partition (type 82) of about 1.5x my total amount of RAM,
Kulith wrote:It seems linux just wont install on a pre-formatted partition. It HAS to "edit" or create the partition itself.
titan wrote:I've looked at the image you've linked, and I need a little clarity. From what I see, you should have six partitions in that list, but there's only three. What happened to the other three?
titan wrote:The boot partition doesn't need to be very large. Sometimes only 32MB will do the trick.
Part of the problem I see here is that Linux needs three partitions for itself: boot, swap and root. At least, that's the way I've always been instructed to do my Linux installs.
The boot partition doesn't need to be very large. Sometimes only 32MB will do the trick. The swap partition is generally recommended to be between 1.5-2.0x the amount of system RAM -- if you have 1GB of RAM then you should have your swap be 1.5GB-2.0GB -- and it behaves just like the page file in Windows/Vista. The root partition is where all the action takes place. It's the Linux equivalent of Windows'/Vista's C:.
You want to manually edit your hard drive setup in your case. You should make sure you know which partition is which before you do anything. Otherwise, you'll botch your Windows/Vista installs. Nothing to really worry about since you have your data backed up...right? I can't find the rest of the partition install screens, so I'm flying blind. The error makes me think that you haven't selected which partition you want to be root.
Because all of them are NTFS, which ones have your Windows/Vista install and which one is it that you want to install Linux on?
Looking at your screenshot, you have all NTFS filesystems. It's not the Linux has to create the partition, but as notfred and titan said, it needs one with a Linux filesystem like ext3, XFS, JFS, etc. So you can create the partition(s) however you want, but don't format it with a Windows filesystem (or delete the Windows FS from the partition(s) you intend to use).
Kulith wrote:Ok. I think linux had the option to format it under "edit partition" Any filsystem in particular I should use of those? After I format it as a Linux filesystem, do I still need to manually split the 20gb up into 3 partitions (boot/swap/root) or does Linux do this itself?
if you have RAM around 1GB.. then you wont need swap.. all distros works fine with this much RAM... i have 512 MB of RAM.... untill now, FC5 never used swap...
Kulith wrote:k in a sec im going to retry install. But first, what does this mean:if you have RAM around 1GB.. then you wont need swap.. all distros works fine with this much RAM... i have 512 MB of RAM.... untill now, FC5 never used swap...
Someguy on the linux forums said this. And another guy said he has 3gb RAM so he didn't need swap. I know they where talking about FC5 but this guy says "all distros work fine with this much ram".
So I dont need a boot partition (I have an Abit IP35PRO -pretty modern I think) and according to this I dont need a swap partition either?
notfred wrote:If you can get it to go at all then do System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects and set it to None. That should stop it using any of the 3d stuff for the window manager.
If it is completely hosed, you can always recover by pressing escape when it prompts during boot, selecting recovery mode and then it will come up in a basic text mode. At that point you could edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (although you will probably have to use vi and you will need to read up on the commands first before you fire it up, it's not so much a WYSIWYG editor as a "you get what you asked for, regardless of whether you meant it or not" editor and brutal on people who haven't used it before), look for the line that says Driver "nvidia" and change it to Driver "nv" to switch it back to the original installed graphics, then just reboot and this time don't enable the nvidia option in the Restricted Drivers Manager.
liquidsquid wrote:Wow, thanks for the help. VI is definitely NOT intuitive. I am clearly very new at this. VI is one of the many reasons why I understand the Linux is a tough sell for casual users. Any moron can fire up the old DOS EDIT editor in Windows and use it intuitively, but not in Unix or derivatives!
bitvector wrote:liquidsquid wrote:Wow, thanks for the help. VI is definitely NOT intuitive. I am clearly very new at this. VI is one of the many reasons why I understand the Linux is a tough sell for casual users. Any moron can fire up the old DOS EDIT editor in Windows and use it intuitively, but not in Unix or derivatives!
Well a lot of distros come with nano installed normally (Ubuntu and Debian, for example) so just use that if you don't like vi. Fedora also has it installed by default now, IIRC.
liquidsquid wrote:Quick question: If I type HELP to get a list of available commands at the prompt, how do I get it to go page by page, or go back and look at items off the top of the screen?
titan wrote:liquidsquid wrote:Quick question: If I type HELP to get a list of available commands at the prompt, how do I get it to go page by page, or go back and look at items off the top of the screen?
Shift+Page Up/Down will scroll the screen for you, but if you're in the GUI environment using a terminal like Xterm -- think of it as the command prompt window in Windows -- you should have a scroll bar to use.