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Usacomp2k3 wrote:Don't forget that it has image stabilization...
PRIME1 wrote:price?
Flying Fox wrote:Usacomp2k3 wrote:Don't forget that it has image stabilization...
These days IS is to be expected. Like there is no way you are going to even think about a GPU with only DX7.
Usacomp2k3 wrote:Flying Fox wrote:Usacomp2k3 wrote:Don't forget that it has image stabilization...
These days IS is to be expected. Like there is no way you are going to even think about a GPU with only DX7.
At least on P&S's I guess. I still prefer lens-shift over body-shift for SLR's, especially larger lenses.
Flying Fox wrote:Usacomp2k3 wrote:Flying Fox wrote:These days IS is to be expected. Like there is no way you are going to even think about a GPU with only DX7.
At least on P&S's I guess. I still prefer lens-shift over body-shift for SLR's, especially larger lenses.
Hey on a P&S we are lucky to have anything, even just software correction.
Usacomp2k3 wrote:Flying Fox wrote:Usacomp2k3 wrote:At least on P&S's I guess. I still prefer lens-shift over body-shift for SLR's, especially larger lenses.
Hey on a P&S we are lucky to have anything, even just software correction.
Wait, so are we lucky or is it expected. (not trying to be difficult, honest)
Flying Fox wrote:Any thoughts? May be a tad too red? I am seriously thinking about getting this now. My A40 is getting really old and I want something small with a wide lens that have enough manual stuff should I want to (night shots mostly).
Concordia wrote:Flying Fox wrote:Any thoughts? May be a tad too red? I am seriously thinking about getting this now. My A40 is getting really old and I want something small with a wide lens that have enough manual stuff should I want to (night shots mostly).
seems a bit soft and underexposed, most likely a user error. I'm going to hold on any opinions until i see a full review for it. and you're right about their site... it never did load for me. =/
Firestarter wrote:I just don't use all 10MP. Actually with Panasonic if you don't choose all 10MP you can do other aspect ratio (3:2, 16:9) and use the quasi-digital "extended zoom" (crop). Then lens is king, but past Panasonic image processing is a bit below Canon's, so that's the concern. I have read reviews of the other models based on the same Venus IV processor and they don't bode well.I'm not too happy about the trend of squeezing 10+ megapixels onto a tiny sensor, but the 25-125 F2.8 lens sounds like it's a cut above the rest of the P&S lenses.
Firestarter wrote:Yeah, I agree. I love wide-angle -- back when I was shooting my film SLR my everyday lens was 24-120 and I took the vast majority of shots at the bottom of the range, well under 50mm. I'd rather have 4mm at the low end than 40 at the high.I'm not too happy about the trend of squeezing 10+ megapixels onto a tiny sensor, but the 25-125 F2.8 lens sounds like it's a cut above the rest of the P&S lenses.
UberGerbil wrote:I've been lackadaisically shopping for a P&S for a while. My interest in a P&S is (a) as a pocket-camera companion to my SLR, and (b) as a small dive camera (in a dive enclosure, obviously). I suspect the touch interface eliminates the latter option, otherwise this camera might be interesting to me. I'm also sort of looking to get something for my elderly mother, but this is entirely too complicated for her.
Flying Fox wrote:Myself I kind of want an all-in-one, so I got the A40 when it first came out with all the manual goodies. However I do find the size limiting. With an ultracompact body, wide lens and all the manual stuff this is the perfect one for me on paper. However, other models with the same Venus IV processor are not exactly stellar so I may have to crawl back to Canon and just get the SD870IS, sacrificing some manual controls (hopefully its night mode is better).
SpotTheCat wrote:I was about to ask you about that in your thread. So how's the low light indoor (ie. parties, dinners, get-togethers) performance?My fiancee has the 870IS and while it is a nice camera
SpotTheCat wrote:Like what?I'm having trouble finding controls that it may not even have.
SpotTheCat wrote:It does take great point and shoot pictures too if you just leave it in manual mode.
Flying Fox wrote:Thanks SpotTheCat for taking those pictures.
What about parties with artificial lights and human faces? It does seem that out-of-the-box the Canons will take better, less noisy pictures. So what about night scenes?
I had high hopes for the Panny, but looks like I may be slightly disappointed. Damn Canon why they still haven't put some of these manual controls on their ultracompacts? I don't really want to go back to the A-series since they are a bit too big to bring out to parties and they don't have sub-35mm wide yet. Another sign of Canon dragging its feet when there is no serious competition.
SpotTheCat wrote:You haven't seen a Fuji F10/11/30/31 then .As long as you STFA from the 1600 ISO, it's better than any hand held this size I've seen.
crazybus wrote:SpotTheCat wrote:You haven't seen a Fuji F10/11/30/31 then .As long as you STFA from the 1600 ISO, it's better than any hand held this size I've seen.
Hey SpotTheCat, do you find that the 870IS gives a red tint to and generally overexposes (Caucasian) skin tones in harsh outdoor light situations? This has been the case for pretty much all the Canon P&S cameras I've used, but then I haven't used a Canon produced in the past 18 months or so.
I've found that Canon severely oversaturates the red channel to the point of clipping at default settings. Changing the colour settings to "Natual" helps, but I still don't like what it does with skin tones. Sorry but I don't have a good image to demonstrate what I mean.
Speaking of Panasonic cameras, the ones I've used can produce quite pleasing, if slightly contrasty images provided you have good lighting. Anything above ISO 80 and you've got visible noise though . Hopefully this camera can shoot at least ISO 400 without outputting a mottled mess. Heck, just give the user the option of RAW output so they can take care of the noise in post-processing.
SpotTheCat wrote:P/A/S/M is what this new Panny promises, that's why it is exciting. By compression options you mean RAW? Because most of these cams do have fine, super fine and normal compression settings.It's just a shame nobody puts aperture and compression options on point and shoots.
Flying Fox wrote:SpotTheCat wrote:P/A/S/M is what this new Panny promises, that's why it is exciting. By compression options you mean RAW? Because most of these cams do have fine, super fine and normal compression settings.It's just a shame nobody puts aperture and compression options on point and shoots.
So Spot, any pics night indoor parties with lots of faces and stuff? What about nightshots? I thought you said you wanted to take some during that lunar eclipse a while back.