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liquidsquid wrote:Actually no. Multiple instances of the single core client still pale in ppd compared to the SMP client, provided that you can finish the WUs on time.For PPD output, it is recommended not to use the SMP client on anything less than quad-core. You will get more PPD running two instances of Folding@Home.
liquidsquid wrote:So far my GPU PPD output is more than 5x the quad core So, if your GPU is supported, use that (or all of them!) So far, running engineering apps and the SMP client and a GPU client, my machine is stable.
petcherd wrote:OK, I'm now running VMWare server and three VMs with notfred's folding appliance set to two CPUs per VM. It runs a pair of single-instance clients per VM. Would there be any advantage to running as SMP with "only" two virtual CPUs, or am I doing it the best way my little machine can handle?
notfred wrote:Not sure if VMWare supports running 64bit guests in 32bit hosts, that may be what is stopping you from running the SMP under my stuff. My stuff is Linux based and the Linux SMP is only available for 64bit OS. Take a look at what it reports on the webpage/screen for CPU type and see if it detects the 64bit or just 32bit. To run SMP, my stuff needs to detect 64bit and detect more than 1 CPU core, otherwise it will run multiple single clients.
JPinTO wrote:Don't use the Hyperthreading. Run the 2 VMWare guests, 2 cores assigned to each guest. Manually set the Affinity on each VMWare process to the cores:
ie: Vmware-1: Core 1+2
VMware-2: Core 3+4
When you want a monster Point boost, buy a 8800GT and run the GPU2 client in Windows, while running 2 VMware SMP clients.
JPinTO wrote:Assuming the host OS is 32-bit, then you can only run WinSMP also (make sure you have enough licences) in the VMs.Don't use the Hyperthreading. Run the 2 VMWare guests, 2 cores assigned to each guest. Manually set the Affinity on each VMWare process to the cores:
ie: Vmware-1: Core 1+2
VMware-2: Core 3+4
When you want a monster Point boost, buy a 8800GT and run the GPU2 client in Windows, while running 2 VMware SMP clients.
david00214 wrote:You probably should test it out to see how big a points loss is with a core constantly dedicated to the GPU client. Assuming you can meet the deadlines, and your GPU is high-powered enough (low end stuff like 8400GS/HD3450 need not apply here), the GPU ppd gain should be a bit more than the points loss from a slower SMP client. Try it and report back please.Can you do this with a quad core? Run two SMP clients in two VMware linux environments AND run GPU2 client? I'd be a folding MONSTER
Flying Fox wrote:JPinTO wrote:Assuming the host OS is 32-bit, then you can only run WinSMP also (make sure you have enough licences) in the VMs.Don't use the Hyperthreading. Run the 2 VMWare guests, 2 cores assigned to each guest. Manually set the Affinity on each VMWare process to the cores:
ie: Vmware-1: Core 1+2
VMware-2: Core 3+4
When you want a monster Point boost, buy a 8800GT and run the GPU2 client in Windows, while running 2 VMware SMP clients.david00214 wrote:You probably should test it out to see how big a points loss is with a core constantly dedicated to the GPU client. Assuming you can meet the deadlines, and your GPU is high-powered enough (low end stuff like 8400GS/HD3450 need not apply here), the GPU ppd gain should be a bit more than the points loss from a slower SMP client. Try it and report back please.Can you do this with a quad core? Run two SMP clients in two VMware linux environments AND run GPU2 client? I'd be a folding MONSTER
Ragnar Dan wrote:Pegasus has the SMP and GPU clients working on a 9450 quad, with the first 2 cores assigned to the first SMP installation, and the 2nd and 3rd cores to the 2nd SMP installation (thus sharing one core between the 2 SMP clients), leaving the 4th core free to run the GPU2 client. I don't know what his production is like, nor how to assign cores in Linux, and until he reports back with what his total setup is (including how many clients he runs), we won't be able to tell whether his idea is worth doing. Stanford reports 6 clients, and it appears his production has dropped precipitously recently, but until he reports what his situation is, it's hard to tell what is going on.
Flying Fox wrote:Very nice summary with links there Dan.Ragnar Dan wrote:Pegasus has the SMP and GPU clients working on a 9450 quad, with the first 2 cores assigned to the first SMP installation, and the 2nd and 3rd cores to the 2nd SMP installation (thus sharing one core between the 2 SMP clients), leaving the 4th core free to run the GPU2 client. I don't know what his production is like, nor how to assign cores in Linux, and until he reports back with what his total setup is (including how many clients he runs), we won't be able to tell whether his idea is worth doing. Stanford reports 6 clients, and it appears his production has dropped precipitously recently, but until he reports what his situation is, it's hard to tell what is going on.
AFAICT he was not assigning cores in Linux, I think what he did was to set processor affinities for the individual vmware-vmx.exe processes under his Windows host and the GPU2 client's FahCore*.exe process.
--- Opening Log file [July 5 13:40:08]
# Windows Console GPU Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.12beta8
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\David\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-gpu
[13:40:08] - Ask before connecting: No
[13:40:08] - User name: Darwin00214 (Team 2630)
[13:40:08] - User ID: 21DB067D3BB668FB
[13:40:08] - Machine ID: 2
[13:40:08]
[13:40:08] Loaded queue successfully.
[13:40:08] Deleting incompletely fetched item (4) from queue position #9
[13:40:08] Initialization complete
[13:40:08] + Benchmarking ...
[13:40:08] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[13:40:08] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:40:08] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[13:40:08] + Attempting to send results
[13:40:08] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:40:09] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:40:09] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:40:09] - Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[13:40:09] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[13:40:09] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[13:40:09] (171.64.65.20:8080)
[13:40:09] - Error: Could not transmit unit 08 (completed July 5) to work server.
[13:40:09] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[13:40:09] + Attempting to send results
[13:40:18] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[13:40:18] (171.64.122.76:8080)
[13:40:18] Could not transmit unit 08 to Collection server; keeping in queue.
[13:40:19] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:40:19] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:40:19] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:40:19] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:40:19] - Attempt #2 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
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[13:40:39] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:40:39] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:40:39] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:40:39] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:40:39] - Attempt #3 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
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Folding@Home Client Shutdown.
--- Opening Log file [July 5 13:45:37]
# Windows Console GPU Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.12beta8
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\David\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-gpu
[13:45:37] - Ask before connecting: No
[13:45:37] - User name: Darwin00214 (Team 2630)
[13:45:37] - User ID: 21DB067D3BB668FB
[13:45:37] - Machine ID: 2
[13:45:37]
[13:45:37] Loaded queue successfully.
[13:45:37] Deleting incompletely fetched item (4) from queue position #9
[13:45:37] Initialization complete
[13:45:37] + Benchmarking ...
[13:45:37] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[13:45:37] + Attempting to get work packet[13:45:37] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[13:45:37] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:45:37] + Attempting to send results
[13:45:38] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:45:38] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:45:38] - Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[13:45:39] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[13:45:39] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[13:45:39] (171.64.65.20:8080)
[13:45:39] - Error: Could not transmit unit 08 (completed July 5) to work server.
[13:45:39] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[13:45:39] + Attempting to send results
[13:45:46] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[13:45:46] (171.64.122.76:8080)
[13:45:46] Could not transmit unit 08 to Collection server; keeping in queue.
[13:45:50] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:45:50] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:45:51] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:45:51] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:45:51] - Attempt #2 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
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[13:46:01] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:46:01] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:46:02] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:46:02] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:46:02] - Attempt #3 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
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[13:46:24] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:46:24] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:46:24] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:46:24] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:46:24] - Attempt #4 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
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[13:47:08] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:47:08] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:47:08] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:47:08] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:47:08] - Attempt #5 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
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--- Opening Log file [July 5 13:49:35]
# Windows Console GPU Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.12beta8
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\David\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-gpu
[13:49:35] - Ask before connecting: No
[13:49:35] - User name: Darwin00214 (Team 2630)
[13:49:35] - User ID: 21DB067D3BB668FB
[13:49:35] - Machine ID: 2
[13:49:35]
[13:49:36] Loaded queue successfully.
[13:49:36] Deleting incompletely fetched item (4) from queue position #9
[13:49:36] Initialization complete
[13:49:36] + Benchmarking ...
[13:49:36] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[13:49:36] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:49:36] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[13:49:36] + Attempting to send results
[13:49:36] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:49:36] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:49:36] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:49:36] - Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[13:49:37] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[13:49:37] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[13:49:37] (171.64.65.20:8080)
[13:49:37] - Error: Could not transmit unit 08 (completed July 5) to work server.
[13:49:37] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[13:49:37] + Attempting to send results
[13:49:44] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[13:49:44] (171.64.122.76:8080)
[13:49:44] Could not transmit unit 08 to Collection server; keeping in queue.
[13:49:50] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:49:50] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:49:50] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:49:50] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:49:50] - Attempt #2 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
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[13:50:10] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:50:10] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:50:11] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:50:11] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:50:11] - Attempt #3 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
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[13:50:31] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:50:31] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:50:31] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:50:31] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:50:31] - Attempt #4 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
--- Opening Log file [July 5 13:58:34]
# Windows Console GPU Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.12beta8
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\David\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-gpu
[13:58:34] - Ask before connecting: No
[13:58:34] - User name: Darwin00214 (Team 2630)
[13:58:34] - User ID: 21DB067D3BB668FB
[13:58:34] - Machine ID: 2
[13:58:34]
[13:58:35] Loaded queue successfully.
[13:58:35] Deleting incompletely fetched item (4) from queue position #9
[13:58:35] Initialization complete
[13:58:35] + Benchmarking ...
[13:58:35] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[13:58:35] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:58:35] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[13:58:35] + Attempting to send results
[13:58:35] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:58:35] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:58:35] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:58:35] - Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[13:58:36] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[13:58:36] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[13:58:36] (171.64.65.20:8080)
[13:58:36] - Error: Could not transmit unit 08 (completed July 5) to work server.
[13:58:36] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[13:58:36] + Attempting to send results
[13:58:37] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[13:58:37] (Got status 503)
[13:58:37] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[13:58:37] (171.64.122.76:8080)
[13:58:37] Could not transmit unit 08 to Collection server; keeping in queue.
[13:58:47] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:58:47] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:58:48] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:58:48] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:58:48] - Attempt #2 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[13:58:59] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:58:59] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:59:00] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:59:00] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:59:00] - Attempt #3 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[13:59:27] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:59:27] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:59:27] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[13:59:27] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[13:59:27] - Attempt #4 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
--- Opening Log file [July 5 14:03:50]
# Windows Console GPU Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.12beta8
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\David\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-gpu
[14:03:50] - Ask before connecting: No
[14:03:50] - User name: Darwin00214 (Team 2630)
[14:03:50] - User ID: 21DB067D3BB668FB
[14:03:50] - Machine ID: 2
[14:03:50]
[14:03:50] Loaded queue successfully.
[14:03:50] Deleting incompletely fetched item (4) from queue position #9
[14:03:50] Initialization complete
[14:03:50] + Benchmarking ...
[14:03:50] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[14:03:50] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[14:03:50] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:03:50] + Attempting to send results
[14:03:50] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:03:50] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[14:03:50] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[14:03:50] - Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[14:03:51] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[14:03:51] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[14:03:51] (171.64.65.20:8080)
[14:03:51] - Error: Could not transmit unit 08 (completed July 5) to work server.
[14:03:51] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[14:03:51] + Attempting to send results
[14:03:52] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[14:03:52] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[14:03:52] (171.64.122.76:8080)
[14:03:52] Could not transmit unit 08 to Collection server; keeping in queue.
[14:04:02] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:04:02] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:04:03] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[14:04:03] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[14:04:03] - Attempt #2 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[14:04:23] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:04:23] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:04:24] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[14:04:24] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[14:04:24] - Attempt #3 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[14:04:55] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:04:55] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:04:56] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[14:04:56] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[14:04:56] - Attempt #4 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[14:05:40] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:05:40] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:05:40] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[14:05:40] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[14:05:40] - Attempt #5 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[14:07:09] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:07:09] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:07:09] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[14:07:09] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[14:07:09] - Attempt #6 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[14:09:58] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:09:58] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:09:59] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[14:09:59] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[14:09:59] - Attempt #7 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[14:15:30] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:15:30] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:15:30] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[14:15:30] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[14:15:30] - Attempt #8 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[14:26:19] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:26:19] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:26:20] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[14:26:20] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[14:26:20] - Attempt #9 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[14:47:43] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:47:43] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:47:44] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[14:47:44] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[14:47:44] - Attempt #10 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
Folding@Home Client Shutdown.
--- Opening Log file [July 5 15:08:06]
# Windows Console GPU Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.12beta8
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: C:\Users\David\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-gpu
[15:08:06] - Ask before connecting: No
[15:08:06] - User name: Darwin00214 (Team 2630)
[15:08:06] - User ID: 21DB067D3BB668FB
[15:08:06] - Machine ID: 2
[15:08:06]
[15:08:06] Loaded queue successfully.
[15:08:06] Deleting incompletely fetched item (4) from queue position #9
[15:08:06] Initialization complete
[15:08:06] + Benchmarking ...
[15:08:06] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[15:08:06] + Attempting to get work packet
[15:08:06] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[15:08:06] + Attempting to send results
[15:08:06] - Connecting to assignment server
[15:08:07] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[15:08:07] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[15:08:07] - Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[15:08:08] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[15:08:08] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[15:08:08] (171.64.65.20:8080)
[15:08:08] - Error: Could not transmit unit 08 (completed July 5) to work server.
[15:08:08] - Read packet limit of 540015616... Set to 524286976.
[15:08:08] + Attempting to send results
[15:08:16] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[15:08:16] (171.64.122.76:8080)
[15:08:16] Could not transmit unit 08 to Collection server; keeping in queue.
[15:08:22] + Attempting to get work packet
[15:08:22] - Connecting to assignment server
[15:08:22] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[15:08:22] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[15:08:22] - Attempt #2 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[15:08:41] + Attempting to get work packet
[15:08:41] - Connecting to assignment server
[15:08:41] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[15:08:41] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[15:08:41] - Attempt #3 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[15:09:14] + Attempting to get work packet
[15:09:14] - Connecting to assignment server
[15:09:15] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[15:09:15] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[15:09:15] - Attempt #4 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[15:10:09] + Attempting to get work packet
[15:10:09] - Connecting to assignment server
[15:10:10] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[15:10:10] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[15:10:10] - Attempt #5 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[15:11:42] + Attempting to get work packet
[15:11:42] - Connecting to assignment server
[15:11:43] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[15:11:43] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[15:11:43] - Attempt #6 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[15:14:37] + Attempting to get work packet
[15:14:37] - Connecting to assignment server
[15:14:37] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[15:14:37] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[15:14:37] - Attempt #7 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.