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danny e. wrote:

pretty much any team in the Big 12 south would crush Penn St.

JustAnEngineer wrote:

AP rankings, week 10 wrote:

1. Alabama (46) 9-0
2. Texas Tech (12) 9-0
3. Penn State (6) 9-0
4. Florida (1) 7-1
5. Texas 8-1
6. Oklahoma 8-1
7. Southern California 7-1
8. Oklahoma State 8-1
9. Boise State 8-0
10. Utah 9-0
11. Texas Christian 9-1
12. Ohio State 7-2
13. Missouri 7-2
14. Georgia 7-2
15. Louisiana State 6-2
16. Ball State 8-0
17. Brigham Young 8-1
18. Michigan State 8-2
19. North Carolina 6-2
20. West Virginia 6-2
21. California 6-2
22. Georgia Tech 7-2
23. Maryland 6-2
24. Florida State 6-2
25. Pittsburgh 6-2

Corrado wrote:

PSU is gonna win out and be #2 and face Alabama in the championship game.

idchafee wrote:

danny e. wrote:

pretty much any team in the Big 12 south would crush Penn St.

I'm not going to go that far. As much as Penn State is playing a bunch of cupcakes, they play a mean defense. The Big 12 doesn't play a whole lot of D themselves, the offenses there don't get much of a test. Penn State would easily beat Baylor and A&M. They can play with Texas Tech and OK State.

UberGerbil wrote:

I kind of wish there was a bottom 25.

David Duffey wrote:

ESPN.com's Bottom 10, week 9:
1. North Texas 0-8 "It's A Long Way To The Top": Unless you are the Mean Green, who share the nation's longest active losing streak at nine games.
2. Washington 0-7 "This House Is On Fire": Like North Texas, the Huskies have lost nine straight games and are winless in '08. Unlike the Mean Green, U-Dub also is looking for a new coach.
3. Washington State 1-7 "Rock & Roll Ain't Noise Pollution": But listening to the Cougars might be. Since Wazzu was off this past week, earplugs weren't needed.
4. Southern Methodist 1-8 "Walk All Over You": Navy didn't even need to attempt a pass to walk to a 34-7 win over the Mustangs.
5. Michigan 2-6 "Black Ice": Changing lanes with Rich Rodriguez didn't figure to be smooth, but the Wolverines never saw this kind of slide coming.
6. San Diego State 1-7 "Hells Bells": Playing "Hells Bells" as entrance music for closer Trevor Hoffman seemed to work for the Padres. Maybe they can loan the sheet music to the Aztecs.
7. Syracuse 1-6 "Back In Black": After a bye week, the Orange's 2008 funeral march continues Saturday with a home game against Louisville.
8. Utah State 1-7 "Shot Down In Flames": Kicked down in flames is more like it. The Aggies were thisclose to a win, but Fresno State's 58-yard field goal as time expired kept Utah State in the Bottom 10.
9. Miami (Ohio) 2-6 "You Shook Me All Night Long": Week 8 No. 9 Kent State shook the RedHawks all night long Saturday, so it's only fair that Miami replaces the Golden Flashes in the Bottom 10.
10. Wyoming 2-6 "For Those About To Rock (We Salute You)": The Bottom 10 is firing off its cannon at the return of the Cowboys to our band.

ESPN.com's Bottom 10, week 10:
1. Washington 0-8 "How the West Was Won": The winless Huskies need to discover how a team from the West can win at least one.
2. Washington State 1-8 "Code of the West": In the 2008 season, the code is losing -- and the Cougars are definitely following that code.
3. San Diego State 1-8 "Lure of the West": The beaches, climate, Gaslamp District and zoo are draws in San Diego, but the Bottom 10 is the only one attracted to the Aztecs.
4. Southern Methodist 1-8 "Passage West": SMU is only a short drive from Fort Worth, which is where the West begins. Most of the Ponies' drives are short. They rank No. 115 in time of possession.
5. Arizona State 2-6 "Romance of the West": Dennis Erickson's first season with the Sun Devils was a honeymoon. A relationship counselor might be required after Year 2.
6. Western Kentucky 2-7 "Into the West": WKU probably should be ranked higher in the Bottom 10's Western edition after losing to former No. 1 North Texas.
7. Alabama-Birmingham 2-7 "Go West, Young Man": The Blazers belong on the Western trail after their 70-14 loss to Southern Mississippi.
8. Idaho 2-8 "Law of the West": It's not surprising that the Vandals would run into trouble with the law. They also run into trouble on defense, where they give up 41.9 points a game.
9. Eastern Michigan 2-8 "East Meets West": The Eagles lost 31-10 at Western Michigan, falling to last place in the MAC West.
10. Michigan 2-7 "The Gun That Won the West": The Wolverines brought in a new sheriff, but he certainly hasn't transformed them into the champions of the West.

CampinCarl wrote:

It's funny because PSU just got beat by unranked Iowa.


God that makes us look bad.

danny e. wrote:

hmm It's starting to look like it will be Texas vs Florida in the championship.
Alabama wont make it past Florida in the SEC championship game. Texas Tech will lose to OK State or Oklahoma. maybe both

if Oklahoma actually had any defense at all, they'd be a superb team.

idchafee wrote:

Jesus Humprey Mortimer Christ. When did the Big Ten get so ****?

idchafee wrote:

Jesus Humprey Mortimer Christ. When did the Big Ten get so ****?

CampinCarl wrote:

idchafee wrote:

Jesus Humprey Mortimer Christ. When did the Big Ten get so ****?

Well, you could also argue that we only step up to play during league play...so we end up beating up on each other so no one emerges victorious overall in the national picture.

UberGerbil wrote:

idchafee wrote:

Jesus Humprey Mortimer Christ. When did the Big Ten get so ****?

About the same time the Pac-10 did (barring USC). All the more reason to go back to the old system where the Rose Bowl pits the "best" of those two conferences together and ignores everything else. (Given that the two conferences control the Rose Bowl, and this isn't a year when it hosts the "championship" game, they're going to do something close to that anyway).

idchafee wrote:

Top to bottom, the Big Ten is probably the weakest of the BCS conferences. Maybe the Pac-10 is there too

AP Rankings, week 11 wrote:

1. Alabama (44) 10-0
2. Texas Tech (21) 10-0
3. Florida 8-1
4. Texas 9-1
5. Oklahoma 9-1
6. Southern California 8-1
7. Penn State 9-1
8. Utah 10-0
9. Boise State 9-0
10. Ohio State 8-2
11. Oklahoma State 8-2
12. Missouri 8-2
13. Georgia 8-2
14. Ball State 9-0
15. Texas Christian 9-2
16. Brigham Young 9-1
17. North Carolina 7-2
18. Michigan State 9-2
19. Louisiana State 6-3
20. Florida State 7-2
21. Pittsburgh 7-2
22. Cincinnati 7-2
23. Oregon State 6-3
24. South Carolina 7-3
25. Tulsa 8-1

JustAnEngineer wrote:

Aren't you forgetting about the Big LEast?

idchafee wrote:

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/gamecenter/recap/NCAAF_20081115_NW@MI

I've never been a big Michigan fan, at least not any more than any other Big Ten team. But crap have they fallen off a table

AP ranking, week 12 wrote:

1. Alabama (42) 11-0
2. Texas Tech (21) 10-0
3. Florida (2) 9-1
4. Texas 10-1
5. Oklahoma 9-1
6. Southern California 9-1
7. Penn State 10-1
8. Utah 11-0
9. Boise State 10-0
10. Ohio State 9-2
11. Oklahoma State 9-2
12. Missouri 9-2
13. Georgia 9-2
14. Ball State 10-0
15. Texas Christian 9-2
16. Brigham Young 10-1
17. Michigan State 9-2
18. Louisiana State 7-3
19. Cincinnati 8-2
20. Pittsburgh 7-2
21. Oregon State 7-3
22. Maryland 7-3
23. Miami (FL) 7-3
24. Oregon 8-3
25. North Carolina 7-3

idchafee wrote:

when was the last time the Hurricanes were in the Top 25?

idchafee wrote:

when was the last time the Hurricanes were in the Top 25?

UberGerbil wrote:

I kind of wish there was a bottom 25.

David Duffey wrote:

ESPN.com's Bottom 10, week 12:

1. Washington 0-10
Nobody Does It Better:
"Nobody does it half as good as you. Baby, you're the best."
Who can argue against the only winless FBS team?

2. Washington State 1-10
The World Is Not Enough:
"The world is not enough. But it is such a perfect place to start, my love."
The Bottom 10 will love the Cougars even more if they lose to the Huskies.

3. San Diego State 1-10
Another Way To Die:
"Another tricky little gun giving solace to the one that will never see the sunshine."
Actually, a little sunshine is about the only solace the Aztecs get.

4. Southern Methodist 1-10
The Living Daylights:
"Comes the morning and the headlights fade in rain. Hundred thousand changes ... everything's the same."
A-ha! Changing coaches doesn't ensure a quick fix.

5. Michigan 3-8
A View To A Kill:
"Dance into the fire, to fatal sounds of broken dreams."
The Wolverines' worst season ever still has Ohio State looming. Duran Duran should have included "no mas, no mas" in the lyrics.

6. North Texas 1-9
Die Another Day:
"I'm gonna break the cycle. I'm gonna shake up the system."
The Mean Green did shake things up by getting their one win, but they're still in the Bottom 10 cycle.

7. Western Kentucky 2-9
You Only Live Twice:
"This dream is for you, so pay the price. Make one dream come true, you only live twice."
If the Hilltoppers don't beat FIU on Dec. 6, they'll only win twice.

8. Tulane 2-8
For Your Eyes Only:
"For your eyes only, can see me through the night. For your eyes only, I never need to hide."
Well, the Green Wave can't hide from the Bottom 10 after losing to UAB.

9. Idaho 2-9
Thunderball:
"His fight goes on and on and on. But he thinks that the fight is worth it all. So he strikes like Thunderball."
Unless the Vandals strike like a thunderball at Hawaii on Saturday, their Bottom 10 fight will go on and on.

10. Syracuse 2-8
Live And Let Die:
"But if this ever-changing world in which we live in makes you give in and cry, Say live and let die!"
The Orange gave in after years of crying and let Greg Robinson go on Sunday. Will a new coach give them new life in '09?