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Krogoth wrote:Pfft. Aside from the dumb "hologram" crap, I really enjoyed having HD election coverage. So many more stats can be displayed!I honestly do not see the huge deal with HD. Sure, it has better resolution that it defintely noticeable on a decent HD display. It is still the same darn content at heart thought.
SpotTheCat wrote:Krogoth wrote:Pfft. Aside from the dumb "hologram" crap, I really enjoyed having HD election coverage. So many more stats can be displayed!I honestly do not see the huge deal with HD. Sure, it has better resolution that it defintely noticeable on a decent HD display. It is still the same darn content at heart thought.
Have you watched a hockey game, and to a lesser extent, a football game on HD and 480i? The difference in comprehension of what's going on is amazing. It makes you wonder how you ever put up with standard def stuff.
You do make a valid point though, a good picture can't compensate for crappy content.
Corrado wrote:You have 25-30 channels with worthwhile content? Wow.SpotTheCat wrote:Krogoth wrote:Pfft. Aside from the dumb "hologram" crap, I really enjoyed having HD election coverage. So many more stats can be displayed!I honestly do not see the huge deal with HD. Sure, it has better resolution that it defintely noticeable on a decent HD display. It is still the same darn content at heart thought.
Have you watched a hockey game, and to a lesser extent, a football game on HD and 480i? The difference in comprehension of what's going on is amazing. It makes you wonder how you ever put up with standard def stuff.
You do make a valid point though, a good picture can't compensate for crappy content.
I am angry I pay $100 a month for cable and internet, only to watch ONLY the 25 or 30 HD channels I have. If I put on SD tv it looks like trash and I can't watch it. Its like watching low res youtube videos compared to watching a good dvd rip. Theres just no comparison.
Corrado wrote:Yup. I do actually I watch pretty much ALL the HD channels. Discovery, Fox, ESPN, NFL Network, HD Theater, HGTV, Science Channel HD, History Channel HD, Comedy Central, Cartoon Network, ABC, NBC, CBS, TBS, TNT, CNN, Speed, TLC
mattsteg wrote:Corrado wrote:Yup. I do actually I watch pretty much ALL the HD channels. Discovery, Fox, ESPN, NFL Network, HD Theater, HGTV, Science Channel HD, History Channel HD, Comedy Central, Cartoon Network, ABC, NBC, CBS, TBS, TNT, CNN, Speed, TLC
There's 18...
Turkina wrote:I've been pretty happy with my Verizon FiOS service...its a tad on the expensive side, but I've had no big issues with either their cable or internet. The only thing is that I used to get FX-HD, but I think they moved that to one of their packages - kind of unfortunate since FX shows some good stuff on occasion. Oh, and NESN-HD looks like crap...although watching NESN in general is always painful (as I am a yankees fan).
PRIME1 wrote:Yeah if there is nothing on I tend to throw on a random HD channel just because the picture looks so nice.
Comcast HD looks pretty good to me (usually).
I'm so spoiled by watching football in HD. Then again my antique television only supports 1080i.
SpotTheCat wrote:PRIME1 wrote:Yeah if there is nothing on I tend to throw on a random HD channel just because the picture looks so nice.
Comcast HD looks pretty good to me (usually).
I'm so spoiled by watching football in HD. Then again my antique television only supports 1080i.
Try the OTA HD broadcasts for football. Miles ahead, especially if it is on ABC. (first they convert it from 720p to 1080i, and then they compress it to hell and back.)
PRIME1 wrote:SpotTheCat wrote:Try the OTA HD broadcasts for football. Miles ahead, especially if it is on ABC. (first they convert it from 720p to 1080i, and then they compress it to hell and back.)
That would require me installing an antenna outside
SpotTheCat wrote:PRIME1 wrote:SpotTheCat wrote:Try the OTA HD broadcasts for football. Miles ahead, especially if it is on ABC. (first they convert it from 720p to 1080i, and then they compress it to hell and back.)
That would require me installing an antenna outside
Are you sure?
PRIME1 wrote:I'm thinking of making my own.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/04/06/di ... reception/
DLHM wrote:
I made this one and it works great.
I used copper wire from romex though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJT ... re=related
Flying Fox wrote:DLHM wrote:
I made this one and it works great.
I used copper wire from romex though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJT ... re=related
What if you are in a basement?
Flying Fox wrote:DLHM wrote:
I made this one and it works great.
I used copper wire from romex though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJT ... re=related
What if you are in a basement?
PRIME1 wrote:
Forge wrote:Turkina wrote:I've been pretty happy with my Verizon FiOS service...its a tad on the expensive side, but I've had no big issues with either their cable or internet. The only thing is that I used to get FX-HD, but I think they moved that to one of their packages - kind of unfortunate since FX shows some good stuff on occasion. Oh, and NESN-HD looks like crap...although watching NESN in general is always painful (as I am a yankees fan).
Unless your Fios there is light-years ahead of Fios here, I can't imagine. Fios here has noticable compression artifacts, even on SD channels. It's horribly compressed to Hell. Cocmast isn't a lot better, but it is better. That's faintly damning praise. Cocmast here is bad, Fios here is obscene.
FunkeeC wrote:Forge wrote:Turkina wrote:I've been pretty happy with my Verizon FiOS service...its a tad on the expensive side, but I've had no big issues with either their cable or internet. The only thing is that I used to get FX-HD, but I think they moved that to one of their packages - kind of unfortunate since FX shows some good stuff on occasion. Oh, and NESN-HD looks like crap...although watching NESN in general is always painful (as I am a yankees fan).
Unless your Fios there is light-years ahead of Fios here, I can't imagine. Fios here has noticable compression artifacts, even on SD channels. It's horribly compressed to Hell. Cocmast isn't a lot better, but it is better. That's faintly damning praise. Cocmast here is bad, Fios here is obscene.
You have a link showing that FIOS compresses at all? That would be contrary to what I've read/understood. I notice not one problem with compression on my FIOS in OC area of socal. The few compliants I have are in regards to the locals who'd rather broadcast 2 weather channels in addition to the main channel rather than giving the main channel all the bandwidth it needs.
FunkeeC wrote:Forge wrote:Turkina wrote:I've been pretty happy with my Verizon FiOS service...its a tad on the expensive side, but I've had no big issues with either their cable or internet. The only thing is that I used to get FX-HD, but I think they moved that to one of their packages - kind of unfortunate since FX shows some good stuff on occasion. Oh, and NESN-HD looks like crap...although watching NESN in general is always painful (as I am a yankees fan).
Unless your Fios there is light-years ahead of Fios here, I can't imagine. Fios here has noticable compression artifacts, even on SD channels. It's horribly compressed to Hell. Cocmast isn't a lot better, but it is better. That's faintly damning praise. Cocmast here is bad, Fios here is obscene.
You have a link showing that FIOS compresses at all? That would be contrary to what I've read/understood. I notice not one problem with compression on my FIOS in OC area of socal. The few compliants I have are in regards to the locals who'd rather broadcast 2 weather channels in addition to the main channel rather than giving the main channel all the bandwidth it needs.
Forge wrote:Link? What kind of link am I supposed to give you? All I can tell you is that when I go over to my buddy Stu's house, he's got a huge 62" DLP getting HDMI from the Verizon box. We play Xbox360 over a crappy VGA input and it looks godly. We watch movies over a DVI->HDMI converter and it's OMFG. We put on live TV and his HD looks a little smeary or blocky, and his SD looks like video off a cell phone.
As sad as it is, here Cocmast's HD is miles ahead of Fios', even though Cocmast does that brain damaged 1080i upconvert and heavy recompress.
Things are apparently much better for you in California than they are here in PA. No big surprise.