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AbRASiON wrote:Do they actually run cooler?
mattsteg wrote:AbRASiON wrote:Do they actually run cooler?
If heat is causing your instability, a new power supply is not the answer.
titan wrote:mattsteg wrote:AbRASiON wrote:Do they actually run cooler?
If heat is causing your instability, a new power supply is not the answer.
To answer your question, yes they will run cooler. The electricity that doesn't make it into the PC gets turned into heat.
mattsteg wrote:AbRASiON wrote:Do they actually run cooler?
If heat is causing your instability, a new power supply is not the answer.
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mattsteg wrote:AbRASiON wrote:Do they actually run cooler?
If heat is causing your instability, a new power supply is not the answer.
AbRASiON wrote:0% "activity" on GPU right now (just in windows)
Fan is set to auto (it's thinking 26% is fine)
GPU temp is 68c
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&s ... it&spell=1
(154'f)
Pretty harsh just for windows
Yes it's summer in Australia but it's no more than 20c today (maybe 75'f)
mattsteg wrote:titan wrote:To answer your question, yes they will run cooler. The electricity that doesn't make it into the PC gets turned into heat.
They could still run the same temperature, if their cooling is designed to run at that temperature.
They put out less heat and use less power, both of which are good things. They may or may not run at a lower temperature. I tend to think that if you're running hot enough that it's causing problems, improved ventilation needs to be a priority more than replacing components.
AbRASiON wrote:Well there's 2 types of crash, I had one yesterday where the machine just turns OFF
The PSU was so hot it was ... incredible - the temp at the back where the power switch is just blew me away.
I opened the case and the green m/b light was off - switched on / off, no go.
Unplug / re-plug the power, no go.
I had to unplug the entire machine and run a fan on the PSU then wait 5 minutes, then it worked again, I'm guessing it's overheat protection in the PSU.
My low noise (slow) fans are all cranked back to max voltage now still not helping enough though, clearly.
AbRASiON wrote:mattsteg wrote:AbRASiON wrote:Do they actually run cooler?
If heat is causing your instability, a new power supply is not the answer.
Surely it may help as it helps reduce the heat?
The PSU itself even when not under load gets quite toasty - hotter than I've had any other supply run.
Curse this awesome quietening foam, it must have something to do with it.
titan wrote:AbRASiON wrote:0% "activity" on GPU right now (just in windows)
Fan is set to auto (it's thinking 26% is fine)
GPU temp is 68c
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&s ... it&spell=1
(154'f)
Pretty harsh just for windows
Yes it's summer in Australia but it's no more than 20c today (maybe 75'f)
Yes, the dampening foam may increase temperature as its an insulator as well as a dampener.mattsteg wrote:titan wrote:To answer your question, yes they will run cooler. The electricity that doesn't make it into the PC gets turned into heat.
They could still run the same temperature, if their cooling is designed to run at that temperature.
They put out less heat and use less power, both of which are good things. They may or may not run at a lower temperature. I tend to think that if you're running hot enough that it's causing problems, improved ventilation needs to be a priority more than replacing components.
You are correct sir. My logic was flawed. I was thinking less heat output therefore cooler running.AbRASiON wrote:Well there's 2 types of crash, I had one yesterday where the machine just turns OFF
The PSU was so hot it was ... incredible - the temp at the back where the power switch is just blew me away.
I opened the case and the green m/b light was off - switched on / off, no go.
Unplug / re-plug the power, no go.
I had to unplug the entire machine and run a fan on the PSU then wait 5 minutes, then it worked again, I'm guessing it's overheat protection in the PSU.
My low noise (slow) fans are all cranked back to max voltage now still not helping enough though, clearly.
If that's the case, then you may just need a new PSU. The PSU should never be very hot. Just very warm air being blown out by it. I doubt the dampening foam has much to do with it. Check to see if the fans are running and whether or not the vents are blocked by dust first.
mattsteg wrote:
You might happen to get a PSU that's more aggressive about cooling itself, runs more air through it, and thus reduces your temperatures, but if it's too hot in your case you're going to get a lot more progress from just improving ventilation. If your PSU is overheating, it's likely due to a failure in its cooling system or your case being way too hot, not just a PSU that runs hot.
eric93se wrote:Seasonic (the best), corsair, Antec, Enermax.
Looks like their will be some 90+ efficient supplies comming out soon:
http://www.80plus.org/manu/psu/psu_join.aspx
Cyco-Dude wrote:Not all, depending on the model. The HX line with modular cables are for sure rebranded Seasonic's. Others lines come from different OEMs.corsair is rebranded seasonic as i recall
Cyco-Dude wrote:The older SmartPower and TruPower were prone to failure due to bad caps (that affects the entire electronics industry, not just PSUs). The newer NeoPower line was made by Seasonic which got great reviews. Recently they have switched OEM on that line and JonnyGuru found it to be even better. The other current Antec lines are not bad these days now that they went through such massive failures. Of course enthusiasts have long memories so sometimes they are still recommending against Antec. I have an old Antec 300W and a new NeoHE 430W, both are running fine.and antec is not all they're cracked up to be. seasonic gets my vote; my last antec was garbage in comparison (antec trupower 430w vs seasonic 430w - antec failed / leaked caps / buzzing noise / not good power at startup whereas seasonic has been flawless).
AbRASiON wrote:This PSU itself is very very very hot to touch, I've been using PC's for 15 years now and I've never felt a PSU half this temp.
AbRASiON wrote:mattsteg wrote:AbRASiON wrote:Do they actually run cooler?
If heat is causing your instability, a new power supply is not the answer.
Surely it may help as it helps reduce the heat?
The PSU itself even when not under load gets quite toasty - hotter than I've had any other supply run.
Curse this awesome quietening foam, it must have something to do with it.
eric93se wrote:Seasonic (the best), corsair, Antec, Enermax.
Looks like their will be some 90+ efficient supplies comming out soon:
http://www.80plus.org/manu/psu/psu_join.aspx
Buub wrote:eric93se wrote:Seasonic (the best), corsair, Antec, Enermax.
Looks like their will be some 90+ efficient supplies comming out soon:
http://www.80plus.org/manu/psu/psu_join.aspx
Subtract Antec from that list, who people have had large numbers of problems with.
Add PC Power & Cooling, the actual best.
just brew it! wrote:Anyone have any experiences with PCP&C since they got bought out by OCZ? Are they still top-notch?
There seem to be a lot less complaints about Antec lately. Dunno if that's because they've gotten their issues sorted, or if fewer people are using them (I tend to think it is a bit of both).