Personal computing discussed
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Thresher wrote:I just read on Gizmodo that they will be selling a dongle so that you can use any headphones.
Thresher wrote:I just read on Gizmodo that they will be selling a dongle so that you can use any headphones.
nerdrage wrote:Or you could just buy the old one instead.
FireGryphon wrote:Why would you want to get aftermarket headphones, anyway?
TurtlePerson2 wrote:Because the purpose of the music is to drown out everything else, so it doesn't really matter what it is. Or, alternatively, you have a "soundtrack" that fits your workout routine (and even helps pace it). Nike even had Crystal Method create an album for this purpose. I see a lot of people using Shuffles at the gym, and they all seem to be using it in this way: they might skip a song now or then, but mostly it's their "workout music" and it just plays. Heck, back in the days of the CD walkman I had one I used for workouts: i kept the same CD in it, playing the same 12 songs in repeat mode, for over two years. I still use my Clip in this way when I'm at the gym (a Shuffle would've worked as well, and I almost overcame my resistance to iTunes and bought one before the Clip debuted and saved me -- and offered FM reception as well, something I definitely wanted).I never quite understood the shuffle. I know it's cheap, but why would you not want to be able to choose which song you wanted to listen to.
FireGryphon wrote:Well, it would be kind of foolish to buy a product that doesn't have the features you want just so that you can authoritatively criticize it. You might need to own it to criticize how certain features work, but you don't need to own it to criticize it for features it lacks. (Whether that criticism is valid or not given the objectives of the product is a separate issue, but someone who is in the market for a type of product certainly can express a legitimate preference for one over another based on the presence or absence of particular features. That's pretty much how "the market" works.)It's foolish to get angry and use such strong words about a product you don't own just because it doesn't have the features you want.
FireGryphon wrote:From the sound of your posts, you don't own one of the new Shuffles, so I find it hard to take your recommendation seriously. You cannot give us an opinion about a product that you don't even own.
FireGryphon wrote:Why would you want to get aftermarket headphones, anyway? Most people (including myself) use iPods in public, on noisy trains or busses, or on the street. I never saw the purpose to buying better aftermarket headphones when you can never hear the fidelity anyway.
FireGryphon wrote:Trash-talk the new Shuffle all you want without even having used it
FireGryphon wrote:...but I bet it works like a charm for those who could use an music player like that.
FireGryphon wrote:It's foolish to get angry and use such strong words about a product you don't own just because it doesn't have the features you want.
Spyder22446688 wrote:oh, but they do, it's the Jobsian Imperative.The existing Shuffle was small enough, I don't see why Apple had to reduce functionality even further in order to shrink the device by another centimeter.
UberGerbil wrote:Spyder22446688 wrote:oh, but they do, it's the Jobsian Imperative.The existing Shuffle was small enough, I don't see why Apple had to reduce functionality even further in order to shrink the device by another centimeter.
FireGryphon wrote:From the sound of your posts, you don't own one of the new Shuffles, so I find it hard to take your recommendation seriously. You cannot give us an opinion about a product that you don't even own. I'm not an Apple fanatic (quite the contrary), but the new Shuffle design, including the headphones, seems very sleek. Why would you want to get aftermarket headphones, anyway? Most people (including myself) use iPods in public, on noisy trains or busses, or on the street. I never saw the purpose to buying better aftermarket headphones when you can never hear the fidelity anyway. I'm somewhat of an audio purist, but I save that for when I'm at home, in a quiet environment, and can don a pair of high-end Grado headphones.
Apple's products are highly priced but are some of the most pleasant devices I've ever used. Trash-talk the new Shuffle all you want without even having used it, but I bet it works like a charm for those who could use an music player like that. It's foolish to get angry and use such strong words about a product you don't own just because it doesn't have the features you want.
TurtlePerson2 wrote:I never quite understood the shuffle. I know it's cheap, but why would you not want to be able to choose which song you wanted to listen to.
lordtottuu wrote:Not necessarily, you can't. One-button control is pretty darn functional for no-hands use while concentrating on something else. Rewind isn't a real common use, either. There's certainly function involved, although it might not match up with what you want, like any other design decision.And to add a little, controlling playback through the headphones makes a decent solution if the controls are just as simple. Look at this page.
Triple-click and hold the Center button. To rewind.
Can I say form over function?
mattsteg wrote:Usacomp2k3 wrote:
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Usacomp2k3 wrote:In that situation, how would a Shuffle work better than a $40 Sanyo or other non-Apple brand? It would be like getting a free display and controls.
mattsteg wrote:Can I say form over function in my opinion and for my use?lordtottuu wrote:Not necessarily, you can't.Can I say form over function?
emorgoch wrote:Usacomp2k3 wrote:In that situation, how would a Shuffle work better than a $40 Sanyo or other non-Apple brand? It would be like getting a free display and controls.
Integration with the media library manager (iTunes) that I already have setup and running.
emorgoch wrote:I can only hope that Apple learns from the new Safari interface and finally ditches the brushed metal iTunes for a standard windows interface.