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Meadows wrote:...If the drivers don't kick you in the nuts, you won't regret installing it.
Spec4 wrote:Meadows wrote:...If the drivers don't kick you in the nuts, you won't regret installing it.
This is why I removed it in the first place, but thought it might be worth another try.
Meadows wrote:Lol, if you already have it, then please by all means possible, use the card. If the drivers don't kick you in the nuts, you won't regret installing it.
MadManOriginal wrote:driver clean the onboard drivers
Meadows wrote:MadManOriginal wrote:driver clean the onboard drivers
What for?
morphine wrote:Having gone from an Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro *to* onboard audio, I would say "don't bother".
I have a pretty good set of ears and the sound quality actually improved, mainly because of Creative's dumbass resampling. Then again, it seems Gigabyte has a pretty good implementation of Realtek's audio, so I may have been blessed. Up until that day, every motherboard audio solution (bar Soundstorm) sounded like crap, with lots of hiss.
Spec4 wrote:I have my Logitech Z-5300e speakers currently hooked up to my MB (Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L) and recently found my X-Fi Extreme Music card from a few years ago and was thinking of putting it in my current system or would I be better served by my onboard audio?
l33t-g4m3r wrote:If your onboard is true 24-bit, which most are now, then I can see it sounding better than the audigy2, which isn't true 24-bit, and samples everything going through the dsp to 16/48.
morphine wrote:l33t-g4m3r wrote:If your onboard is true 24-bit, which most are now, then I can see it sounding better than the audigy2, which isn't true 24-bit, and samples everything going through the dsp to 16/48.
It was the 44100->48000 resampling that was comparatively ruining my audio, basically.
TurtlePerson2 wrote:It shows how tarnished the X-Fi brand is that people wonder if it's better than integrated. I personally like my X-Fi, but the best part about it is the front box and remote control (X-Fi Platinum).
l33t-g4m3r wrote:You also had to turn off the extra effects like EQ and upmixing, to bypass the dsp resampling
titan wrote:Meadows wrote:MadManOriginal wrote:driver clean the onboard drivers
What for?
Yeah, the integrated audio drivers won't interfere with the X-Fi...at least, they shouldn't.
l33t-g4m3r wrote:If your onboard is true 24-bit, which most are now,
Meadows wrote:The problem is, intel Azalia-type codecs (Realtek HD Audio, most prominently) should support 32-bit out of the box, but manufacturers generally don't bother implementing it. That scratches my chalkboard in a very bad way. I might have to invest in a Xonar somewhere down the line just to get true 32-bit sound, 192 kHz master mixing sample rate without the glitches I get now, top quality audio in games, and a nice box to join the others on my "box shelf". Probably next to the pretty Sennheiser box.
Meadows wrote:l33t-g4m3r wrote:If your onboard is true 24-bit, which most are now,
The problem is, intel Azalia-type codecs (Realtek HD Audio, most prominently) should support 32-bit out of the box, but manufacturers generally don't bother implementing it. That scratches my chalkboard in a very bad way. I might have to invest in a Xonar somewhere down the line just to get true 32-bit sound, 192 kHz master mixing sample rate without the glitches I get now, top quality audio in games, and a nice box to join the others on my "box shelf". Probably next to the pretty Sennheiser box.
morphine wrote:Meadows wrote:The problem is, intel Azalia-type codecs (Realtek HD Audio, most prominently) should support 32-bit out of the box, but manufacturers generally don't bother implementing it. That scratches my chalkboard in a very bad way. I might have to invest in a Xonar somewhere down the line just to get true 32-bit sound, 192 kHz master mixing sample rate without the glitches I get now, top quality audio in games, and a nice box to join the others on my "box shelf". Probably next to the pretty Sennheiser box.
You do realize that *nothing* that you're going to do (unless you do recording/producing) even has 24/96Khz depth, much less 32/192, right?
morphine wrote:You do realize that [...] you do recording/producing, [...] right?
l33t-g4m3r wrote:He does, as his argument in the last thread was how there was no discernable difference between the audigy and the X-FI, 24-bit was pointless, and basic onboard should be good enough for everyone.
Then he endorses the Xonar.
I have a hunch you'll be disappointed though.
Zoomastigophora wrote:I don't believe the sampling frequency has anything to do with the frequency range. With digital music, the sampling rate (frequency) dictates how often a continuous analog signal is sampled per second to convert into a discrete and then digitized signal. Music sampled at a higher frequency retain more of the original analog signal, which is always good as far as I'm concerned. Going from 16/44.1 to 24/192 is a fairly audible difference, at least to me. Don't know about 24/192 to 32/192 though.
Meadows wrote:Sampling frequency DIRECTLY dictates frequency range. In order to define a wave of 5000 Hz, you need more than 10,000 Hz of sampling frequency (11,050 Hz or more), and even that will only produce a crude, distorted triangle wave. You can't produce a high frequency if you don't supply the sine wave coordinates quickly enough (sample frequency). For this reason, 44,100 Hz output is typically limited to little more than 21 kHz maximum, and 192 kHz will offer superior interpolation of analogue signals and an - irrelevant - maximum frequency of over 92 kHz. You could make dolphin music with that, or at least confuse their location.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist%E2 ... ng_theorem
Madman wrote:X-Fi is definitely a huge improvement over onboard, and that new DTS/DTC pack, which is commercial is great. But the drivers are still nightmare, the card starts to crackle on a regular basis.
Taddeusz wrote:Madman wrote:X-Fi is definitely a huge improvement over onboard, and that new DTS/DTC pack, which is commercial is great. But the drivers are still nightmare, the card starts to crackle on a regular basis.
Try changing slots to one where IRQ's are not shared with other devices. I don't know why but the X-Fi seems to dislike IRQ sharing. Also, make sure you have the latest drivers. There was a fix some time ago for systems with 4GB or more of RAM.