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Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:38 am

So I was trying to figure out what to ask for for Christmas and I could use a new monitor. Right now I have a 17" Dell LCD I got years ago. I was thinking something that was say 23" and wide screen. 1920x1080 or 2048x1152 would be good. I don't think that TN vs IPS is going to be a big deal for me.

On the Egg I saw the following monitor and it seemed like a good price SAMSUNG 2343BWX. Does anyone have any comments on Samsung monitors and their quality? Anyone have any other recommendations?

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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:03 pm

tfp wrote:
I don't think that TN vs IPS is going to be a big deal for me.

Nobody does until they sit in front of both.
 
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:37 pm

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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:50 pm

SpotTheCat wrote:
tfp wrote:
I don't think that TN vs IPS is going to be a big deal for me.

Nobody does until they sit in front of both.


Really.... :roll: Because I don't have an SPVA-TN-SIPS panel monitors to actually make that judgement myself.
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:28 pm

Here's another beauty...I've an order for one in with Santa.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfo/periphera ... 2410&s=dfo
 
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:29 pm

Check out the LCD Thread over on AnandTech. It's worth reading through the 1st [extremely long] post of the thread for all the information collected there and the next two for all the very good recommendations. Then skip to the last 20-25 pages for a current discussion of what's available.

My suggestion: you buy a monitor for the long haul. A good one will last at least a couple or three system generations. And don't scrimp for your eyes' sake, either.

The top two for anything approaching reasonable money: the HP LP2475W (review) and the Dell U2410 (review). The Dell 2209WA (review) would be a good, less expensive alternative.

My money was spent where my mouth is -- I have had a pair of the LP2475W monitors since February and bought one of the U2410 monitors last week. Both are extremely good; however, the Dell, when properly calibrated, is the better of the two by a just barely visible margin.
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:37 pm

Thanks I'll be sure to give that thread a read.
 
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:57 pm

SpotTheCat wrote:
tfp wrote:
I don't think that TN vs IPS is going to be a big deal for me.

Nobody does until they sit in front of both.

I'm pretty sure I've been in front of an IPS before (or at least the large Dell ones) and I've got to tell you -- not a big deal. If that's how they were 3 years ago, definitely. But TN viewing angles have gotten a lot better; I'm in front of a 23.6" TN monster that I got for ~$190 and the only time I have issues is in very, very black scenes of movies. And then I wish I had an IPS, but that's not very common and I'd way rather get another two monitors like this for less than the cost of a decent-sized IPS.
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:10 am

Sometimes not knowing may be better. Ignorance truly is bliss, especially to the wallet. :lol:
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:48 am

My Samsung 206BW TN panel looks great and I've been real happy with it.
All the S/H-IPS fanboys here have convinced me of the goodness of 8 bit 16:10 format with 1920x1200 resolution however so I'm gonna give it a shot.
They better be right :wink:
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:02 am

If you're doing nothing but gaming or office work, it probably doesn't matter; however, if you are doing anything that requires high color accuracy, an IPS panel is the only way to go. Some of the better MVA/PVA panels are quite good, but not as good. And TN has improved tremendously over the years; however, it still brings up the rear. TN's greatest asset is its speed: great for gaming.
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:14 pm

edh wrote:
If you're doing nothing but gaming or office work, it probably doesn't matter; however, if you are doing anything that requires high color accuracy, an IPS panel is the only way to go. Some of the better MVA/PVA panels are quite good, but not as good. And TN has improved tremendously over the years; however, it still brings up the rear. TN's greatest asset is its speed: great for gaming.

Not even that. You don't have to be a pro graphics artist to like a PVA or IPS panel. Watching TV or movies the difference is obvious too. It's especially worth it if you spend a lot of time in front of your monitor.
 
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:43 am

The Dell U2410 H-IPS LCD monitor has just been posted at $100 off (20%) making its price just US$499 (+ applicable sales tax for your location). A quick Dell coupons search should net you free shipping. It's a great deal on a great monitor !!!
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:04 am

Well, I just bought me a NEC MultiSync FP2141SB to replace my aging Viewsonic PF815. </hugs Monitor> </wipes off radiation>

Yes, they are CRTs, but I love em. For $150, you cannot go wrong with those. If you can spare the space and weight, they still have my vote. :D
 
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:17 am

tfp wrote:
On the Egg I saw the following monitor and it seemed like a good price SAMSUNG 2343BWX. Does anyone have any comments on Samsung monitors and their quality? Anyone have any other recommendations?


I have two of those monitors for my main PC and love them, I originally chose them because I was given a similar model from Samsung as a second monitor at work(20") which i really liked and I haven't had any problems with any of the monitors.
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:34 am

Is the text very small at the max res on that size of the screen"? I would expect it's not to bad.
 
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:53 am

I haven't had any problems with small text on mine, the resolution is not all that much greater than 1920 x 1200. There isn't any problems since it is a 23" screen.

I have a lot more trouble with small text on my laptop which is 1920 x1200 on a 15.4" screen.
 
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:24 pm

Ok that makes sense thanks.
 
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:45 pm

Does the Dell U2410 have that crazy 'Hey I'm looking through a layer of sand' typical Dell anti-glare coating?
 
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:40 pm

It has a "hard" anti-glare coating as opposed the the "soft" anti-glare coating of the HP LP2475W and the "glossy" NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2, my other monitors. Of the three treatments, I actually like the NEC the least (and it is/was a great monitor for the money). The coating on the HP is probably the best; however, I do not find the coating on the Dell to be objectionable. It is not nearly as dense as the coating on the 19" 4:3 Dell that my sister is using (don't remember the model - was new about 4-1/2 years ago).

I use these monitors to edit images using Bibble, Nikon NX and PhotoShop. Of the three, and compared to the $2500 Eizo a friend of mine has, I'd give the Dell 9 points out of 10, the HP a 9-minus and the NEC an 8. The HP and the Dell are really neck and neck. As versatile as the HP is, the Dell is more so. And -- I'm guessing because of its newer 12-bit panel -- an improved version of the same LG panel used in the HP -- the Dell's color calibration is nearly flawless (my calibration using an i1-display 2 sensor and the GretagMacbeth software - not that from the factory, which was simply awful).
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:14 pm

I'll say this- I've wanted a non-TN panel for a while now, and am happy with what I've heard about the U2410's gaming performance, however, I also just checked out an Apple 24" Cinema Display and even looking really hard, I couldn't see why it was so much better. It was better, a little better, but if you sit directly in front of your monitor and don't need perfect colors, the price is largely unjustifiable. For $309 shipped, this 28" monitor is the best rated screen on the 'Egg. Sitting on my desk, I'd have to say I'd rather have this than even a 'really nice' IPS screen that's over $200 more, when it's on sale. For gaming, watching movies or TV shows, and browsing, I don't think anything else anywhere near it's price can compare.
 
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Re: Picking a New Monitor

Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:33 pm

I think you will be fine with any 200$ monitor
what you want to look for is at least ____ x 1080+
you probably want to get one with an HDMI input
go for 24" but 23 is ok

I don't think you will get any value out of a nice IPS, but if u want dell makes a cheap E-ips 2209wa but it is not full 1080

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