Personal computing discussed
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Skrying wrote:It will make them money. What other definition of success is there?
BoBzeBuilder wrote:Would Apple lose money on anything these days? They might as well release me with an Apple sticker.
It's got all the shortcomings of an iPhone just without the contract but none of the advantages, mainly pocketability. I am not really impressed by it whatsoever and although I like to dislike Apple I can see the value in some of their products, mainly the iStuff. Just not this iThing.
MadManOriginal wrote:Aww Skrying my little internet Stradivarius, I don't make legitimate points any more? What's not legitimate about this from my post just above?
Skrying wrote:MadManOriginal wrote:Aww Skrying my little internet Stradivarius, I don't make legitimate points any more? What's not legitimate about this from my post just above?
The fact that you like to dislike a company is just fanboyism in reverse. It's being as much of a sheep as you accuse other people to be. You didn't even give specifics just generalization.
blitzy wrote:Its not a completely useless product, it's just that other products do some of what it can do a lot better.
SNM wrote:Please do tell. I don't think the iPad is flawless (we'll start with the name, dear god), but I don't know of anything comparable to it that doesn't have serious shortcomings. A netbook? Puh-leeze. Netbooks are for people who can't afford a laptop -- if they don't have one for the price they're almost certainly better off with an iPad and their proper laptop.
Skrying wrote:One of the CULV based laptops out there would do many things far better than the iPad. For one is productivity. There's to many limitations on the iPad to make it useful for say editing a .docx file even with the keyboard attached. It would be hard pressed to imagine many cases where I could even do school work with just an iPad. While a netbook, or more likely for the people on this forum a CULV based laptop, can do that.
SNM wrote:Skrying wrote:One of the CULV based laptops out there would do many things far better than the iPad. For one is productivity. There's to many limitations on the iPad to make it useful for say editing a .docx file even with the keyboard attached. It would be hard pressed to imagine many cases where I could even do school work with just an iPad. While a netbook, or more likely for the people on this forum a CULV based laptop, can do that.
See, this is what I don't get. Sure, you can say that the iPad won't be as productive as a CULV laptop in a lot of cases, but it's not for those cases. Everybody I know who has a netbook either:
1) Can't afford a laptop and needs portable computing, or
2) Uses it as an ultra-portable desktop, hooking it up to a monitor and keyboard everywhere they use it -- and only using it for web browsing and ssh, or
3) Has a laptop too, and uses the netbook for curling up in a chair or taking notes or playing games in class.
For case 1, sure, if you need to pretend you're working on a full-powered computer you're better off with a netbook. For case 2, sure, but you're not using a netbook -- you're using a thin client. For case 3? iPad all the way. It has what looks like a real text editor, presentation software, and spreadsheet so you can do editing. And actually give your presentation while mobile but having more control than a clicker allows. It has a better screen than netbooks, with more resolution than most, for better media consumption. In slate form it is easier to curl up around for net browsing or book reading. It may not have a great notes app yet, but I bet it will soon, and we all know there are plenty of games.
Netbooks are small, slow laptops with all the issues that brings. I don't want a smaller laptop, I want something to read Ars Technica and watch Youtube and my TV shows on without dealing with my larger laptop. A netbook can do these things and lots more besides, but the iPad will do these things better and my laptop and desktop will do all the "lots more besides" things better.
MadManOriginal wrote:So basically it's a toy to do things which people who might buy it likely already have toys to do. Fair enough.
SNM wrote:MadManOriginal wrote:So basically it's a toy to do things which people who might buy it likely already have toys to do. Fair enough.
Well, yeah, for now...
But laptops were toys once too.
This continues the inevitable extension of computing into more and more specialized roles.
derFunkenstein wrote:I like how you guys all seem to think you're the market for this thing and therefore since you're not interested it will flop. I think that, at this point where 2/3 of all non-cheese votes say it will be a flop, you guys are funny.
This thing will sell > 1M units in the first full quarter of availability and sales will climb from there. If not, I'll...eh...I'll eat my hat.
Skrying wrote:Quoted for truth.I'd agree that as a media device, gaming device and reading the device the iPad is superior. But as a productivity device I really don't see this argument. ESPECIALLY when you look at the limitation of not being able to multitask.