Hahaha, Debian is shipping faster than Windows, and Microsoft is going to release "when it's ready." In other news, cats and dogs are getting along together, frogs are raining from the sky, and Satan was spotted in a snowball fight with Kenny McCormick.

Catering to the hardware vendors over the users tells you exactly where their allegiances lie.

If only the Linux community could get the entertainment and utility application developers onboard... people could actually, completely ditch Windows. I'd be up for that. The lack of native gaming support / game availability is all that keeps me running Win32.

Ballmer was born slippery. It's like complaining about water being wet.

Dude, what if this thing goes vaporware? That would kinda rock.

#13 Yes I know about Vistas highly touted install and backup schemes.
To start with, if you have been watching the news Symantec is suing MS. That gives me a pretty good idea where the backup software came from.Yeech
But, the biggest problem is all the restore files are on the same hard drive you are trying to repair. The backup files get sent to a DVD or another hard drive. But, so far you only got a 50/50 chance that it works.
Biggest let down: In Win2K and XP you could boot from the CD and over write the OS files (with known good files from the CD) and not lose all your settings and applications. That ability is gone in Vista. You must rely on System Restore. But these files are on the same corrupted hard drive you are trying to fix. So far, you have a 30% chance of that working.

And don't believe all the hype you read on MSs sites.

Oldtech

From what I've seen so far, I can't see any IT department switching to Vista.
It's not that it's all that buggy ( it is beta!) but they have casterized and made many simple things complicated. The word 'improvement' seems to mean adding multiple menus to do what you did with one menu.
And, they are trying way to hard to make it look like Linux.

Oldtech

What's sad is most of the improvements in Vista are things OSX had years ago. I really don't understand why it's taking MS so long to release Vista.

Hell, keep it for another two years and get everything in there that was supposed to be in there. XP is useable enough, and a decent OS. I'd rather have a real advancement than incremental improvement.

Given the status of the beta 2 (played with it yesterday) I'd concur. You'd think they'd have essential stuff like drivers/installation nailed down by now but there were many many issues. In fact the GUI/programs worked better than the overall system, which seems backwards to me.

Release it when it's right, I can live with XP for a few more years. I don't want a buggy POS like usual.

I couldn't help but think that you could type up a generic "Vista delayed" news story and have spots to paste in the name of the person and what the new date will be. Might want to do that for "X company sues Y company" too lol.

Is this even suprising anymore? Didn't think so.

They should have just did all the things they were going to and shipped it when it was done.