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   #14. Posted at 12:45 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
Sargent Duck
Can't say I like it. The PC industry only had 4 major players (Intel/AMD and Nvidia/ATI). What happens if Intel/Nvidia decide to merge? (possible, considering the amount of $$$ Intel has). Sure, ATI is still gonna be kept seperate, but in 3 years time, is AMD gonna let it's "ATI motherboard" division make Intel mb's?
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#14, That would never happend. Intel dont need nVidia top make pe...  :  Shintai  (#25)  «
#25, The main reason that Intel doesn't care for performance G...  :  Krogoth  (#33)  «
#33, Or Tulsa's for that matter.  :  Wajo  (#43)  «

   #35. Posted at 07:53 PM on Jul 24th 2006, Edited at 07:53 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
Shining Arcanine
Another note is that if that ATI uses AMD's more advanced process technologies, Nvidia will be compelled to make a deal with Intel where Intel will cheaply manufacture GPUs on the latest process technologies for Nvidia and Nvidia's SLI will be unlocked on Intel motherboards.
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#35, Intel has better (higher value) uses for those fabs. So does...  :  UberGerbil  (#39)  «
#39, Unless of course AMD had unused fab space (once fab36 is ...  :  Wajo  (#42)  «

   #37. Posted at 10:47 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
eitje
Intel says "no more special deals on procs!"
Dell says "fine! we're shipping AMD systems!"
...AMD takes out 2.5B loan...
AMD offers complete platform solution.
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#37, sums up the short reason for the merger.  :  Krogoth  (#41)  «

   #29. Posted at 01:52 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
StashTheVampede
Now that ATMDi is a "platform", this could give OEMs the a real choice on what to buy. Heck, Apple's movement to x86 was heavily based on a complete platform from Intel.

Seeing Apple go to AMD isn't going to happen (if ever), but this is now a real "choice" for builders.
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# ATI has been the supplier for most of the Apple systems. ...  :  StashTheVampede  (#40)  «

   #36. Posted at 08:43 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
DrDillyBar
Red and Green aren't Brown, their Christmas! (aka Non-Denominational Winter Festivities Day)
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   #13. Posted at 12:44 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
blastdoor
I hope this forces Intel to make some decent integrated graphics for a change
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#13, You see the larger picture and I concur with your statement.  :  Krogoth  (#34)  «

   #4. Posted at 12:19 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
SNM
Interesting points here. But isn't "the green team" supposed to be nVidia?
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#4, Context is a bitch. AMD is the green team here, but yeah, th...  :  IntelMole  (#5)  «
# Both CEOs Ro sham bo each other until only one remains...  :  IntelMole  (#32)  «

   #8. Posted at 12:30 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
Shintai
Brownish might not be the right term to use. Its not like the merger is a newborn turd!
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# I suspect the ATI name and logo won't stick around very l...  :  UberGerbil  (#28)  «
#28, I can see it now. The newly branded name for GPUs will...  :  firestorm02  (#30)  «

   #10. Posted at 12:31 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
Ricardo Dawkins
why they didn't grab VIA and/or SiS, or someone else beyond ATI ?
Much better would have been AMD-Nv-ULI....
From now on...I'll just have the option of a Nvidia Sli system with whatever CPU or an AMD-ATI system...yuck.
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#10, Really, they should have grabbed ULi, which was available fo...  :  packfan_dave  (#23)  «
#23, You mean ATI should have grabbed them? Yeah, definitely. ...  :  UberGerbil  (#24)  «

   #6. Posted at 12:24 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
indeego
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/07/24/intel_pulls_ati_chipset_lic...
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#6, I said that was going to happen... and so did many others. I...  :  thecoldanddarkone  (#11)  «
# Until this move causes Intel to get into bed with nVid...  :  UberGerbil  (#21)  «
# They don't? It's just two pci-e slots heh. So long as ...  :  Convert  (#22)  «

   #17. Posted at 12:49 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
WaltC
Interesting comments--I'll be sure and keep tabs to see what other insights you might gather.

With respect to the cross-fire license for nVidia core-logic, I wonder if the issue isn't so much of ATi disallowing a cf license to nV, as much as it might be nV wanting to keep cf out of its chipsets.

I hadn't thought about the Core bus license owned by ATi. I really can't see why AMD would want a Core/2 license from Intel anymore than it wanted a P4 bus license from Intel (AMD didn't, and Intel wouldn't, IIRC.) Interesting point, though, to see play out. If Intel is true to form, however, I don't think it will want AMD to have such a license--and I can't see why AMD would want it. But maybe ATi would, so this should be interesting.
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#17, AMD didn't want a bus license before because it wasn't in th...  :  UberGerbil  (#20)  «

   #3. Posted at 12:14 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
Decelerate
The only thing I'm worried here is that they'll waste a vast amount of ressources (time, money, etc.) to seal up this M&A; basically the first bullet in the assorted notes.

They better synch fast and smoothly, or they'll be trending rough waters, with Intel waking up from its coma with a bang and NVidia currently having the upper hand.
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#3, I wouldn't be surprised if things don't go as smoothly as po...  :  Convert  (#18)  «
#18, Or it can turn into a big mess, as has happened with larg...  :  UberGerbil  (#19)  «

   #1. Posted at 12:09 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
Logan[TeamX]
it's good to see ATI will likely remain in Canada. Such a move will likely bolster its reputation as a decent, "larger" Canadian employer I'm sure.
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#1, They have to say that -- just to reduce any friction from In...  :  UberGerbil  (#15)  «

   #2. Posted at 12:10 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
indeego
Why ATI and not Nvidia? Nvidia's mature chipset and historical AMD preferences seemed more natural a fit.

"AMD execs expect significant cost savings in certain areas of operational overlap between the two companies—$75 million by the end of 2007 and $125 million by 2008"

Chump change in regards to the total amount yearly spent by these two companies.
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#2, Price. ATi's marketcap was low enough for a complete buyout.  :  StashTheVampede  (#9)  «
#2, AMD can afford ATI. It can't afford nVidia. All things being...  :  UberGerbil  (#12)  «

   #7. Posted at 12:27 PM on Jul 24th 2006 Edit   Reply
Ricardo Dawkins
man...I hope they continue to develop *better* Radeons for god sakes...
/me huges Radeon 9600 on Palomino system
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