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   #25. Posted at 12:53 PM on Aug 4th 2006, Edited at 12:54 PM on Aug 4th 2006 Edit   Reply

I wonder if Intel's new drivers fix the security holes that Jon Ellch and David Maynor documented. I upgraded my laptop last night to plug the security holes Intel closed in them.
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   #14. Posted at 07:29 AM on Aug 4th 2006 Edit   Reply

Next, 'Starbucks Hax0rs'
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   #22. Posted at 11:23 AM on Aug 4th 2006, Edited at 11:29 AM on Aug 4th 2006 Edit   Reply

There is a great response to this latest scare at
http://daringfireball.net/2006/08/krebs_followup .

It sums up everything I feel about this whole issue.
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   #7. Posted at 08:00 PM on Aug 3rd 2006 Edit   Reply

Haha, OMG, This is so funny. I've always heard how much more secure Apple's are than anything else.. The fact is that if Apples could suddenly occupy 90% of the worlds desktops, they would have the living crap hacked out of them in no time. I don't understand why Mac lovers are so smug.. They simply are not that popular. That's why no one wanted to hack them in the past. I'm just dying here with laughter. LOL!!!
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   #16. Posted at 07:52 AM on Aug 4th 2006 Edit   Reply

It was a third party USB wireless device using third party drivers. He did not use MacBook's built in wireless device.
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   #19. Posted at 08:48 AM on Aug 4th 2006 Edit   Reply

All this proves is that running third party drivers in kernel space is dangerous because the drivers could have bugs that will allow the type of situation that was demonstrated.

It seems that Mac OS X, Linux and Windows are all using the same code in their drivers for this particular wireless card, hence they're all hackable - should you find someone that's equipped their laptop with the chipset and drivers involved. Macs have built-in wireless anyway, although they're probably also using vendor supplied code, so again the vendor supplied code will be the weak point. There's one place to lay the blame, the vendor.

As another poster said, this shows how peer-reviewed open source code is potentially the most secure mechanism in the long run. It's a big hit against proprietary closed source code, and the people that claim that security by obscurity is a good idea.
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   #9. Posted at 11:49 PM on Aug 3rd 2006, Edited at 11:56 PM on Aug 3rd 2006 Edit   Reply

Anyone else besides me tired of the "hackers hack "x", proving "x" has security flaws" stories that only spread FUD?

Ummm, they're hackers...they're supposed to be able to hack stuff. That's what they do, see, because they're hackers.

Call me when a 10 year old kid can make my computer explode with a series of random mouse clicks. Then I'll start to worry.
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   #2. Posted at 03:31 PM on Aug 3rd 2006, Edited at 03:32 PM on Aug 3rd 2006 Edit   Reply

Maynor: "if you watch those 'Get a Mac' commercials enough, it eventually makes you want to stab one of those users in the eye with a lit cigarette or something."

It's so true! Hey, where'd that one guy who wrote the craptastic review of the Dell Inspiron E1705 versus the 15.4" MacBook go? And now that there's a 17" MacBook, why haven't we seen a TechReport-esque, no holds barred match between that and the E1705? :D
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   #6. Posted at 06:57 PM on Aug 3rd 2006 Edit   Reply

wonder if it's just the Intel-based Macs or if PPC Macs are vulnerable? And if PPC is vulnerable, will Intel-based Macs get a fix while PPC rots on the vine even more? *sigh*
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   #3. Posted at 03:53 PM on Aug 3rd 2006 Edit   Reply

Maynor: "if you watch those 'Get a Mac' commercials enough, it eventually makes you want to stab one of those users in the eye with a lit cigarette or something."

i spewed... thanks... now i have pepsi all over my keyboard...
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   #1. Posted at 03:23 PM on Aug 3rd 2006 Edit   Reply

Holy 129MB package they link too. Good thing one got 20Mbit O.O!
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