Comments for: Serial ATA finally to replace IDE in DVD burners?

#17. Posted at 04:14 PM on Oct 3rd 2006

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fatpipes

Hopefully this will cut down on the coaster rates.

IDE has a number of problems other than form factor that SATA will clear up for optical devices. Many of us know how badly 40-pin IDE cables were. They caused data corruption and hang-ups. With the 80-pin insulator cables, the noise that caused data corruption became less of an issue. But still, IDE only does ECC on data, leaving status and command signals naked in a breeze.

If you manipulate an 80-pin cable enough (as most of us builders do, manhandling these unweildy ribbons into folded or twisted klumps) it loses its ability to really keep the signal clean. One thing I've seen that's really stupid is all of the ribbon cables that have 80 pins, but they're just wire-wrapped spaghetti. They don't even seem to be twisted into conductor-to-signal pairs, which defeats the purpose of the extra 40 ground lines. The ribbon itself may be shielded, but at the end points, the cables fray out into the connector, leaving them exposed to the elements at either end.

SATA encodes all information on the serial line in an 8b/10b ECC signal, including command, status and data. Hopefully SATA(HDD)-to-SATA(CD) and ECC on all traffic, as well as the beefy buffers on most SATA devices today will improve these rates of failure.

#17, Hopefully windows GUI also doesn't lock up on insertion/init... : indeego (#18) «

#18, Exactly! I'm hoping that Vista solves that problem - does... : Anomymous Gerbil (#33) «

#17, ide wasn't that bad. If you had coaster problems its prolly ... : shank15217 (#19) «

#19, Id say most new baords have more than 4, even budget boar... : robg1701 (#21) «

#19, But it is better. With SATA you don't get two devices try... : SGWB (#23) «

#23, I have two almost identical CD burners in a system and... : nonegatives (#35) «

#34. Posted at 01:49 AM on Oct 4th 2006, Edited at 01:53 AM on Oct 4th 2006

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eloj

The Samsung SH-W163A SATA (black) is quite affordable, and has been for a while.

Review:
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=16341

Current cost in Europe (/wo sales tax): Around $35-$40.

#1. Posted at 02:01 PM on Oct 3rd 2006, Edited at 02:02 PM on Oct 3rd 2006

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kevon27

It's about time. Now can we get rid of the floppy drive forever?

#1, Yes and no. The USB Drive has effectively replaced the flopp... : Resomegnis (#4) «

#4, You only need them to load third party RAID controller dr... : Norphy (#6) «

#6, Yeah, until they start letting you use USB Flash Drive... : Resomegnis (#13) «

#4, Yes but I hate old tech that is lingering around for no r... : z-man (#8) «

#1, Use a USB floppy. Very handy. : emkubed (#10) «

#10, wont load "F6" drivers, only a maybe on BIOS updates (alt... : Bauxite (#12) «

#12, I've never had any problems loading "F6" drivers with ... : Taddeusz (#20) «

#1, While we are on the subject of floppy drives, why can't you ... : SGWB (#24) «

#1, you can! ignore the F6 RAID driver comments... use nlite, an... : eitje (#26) «

#1, PS/2 and FDD must not die!!! : DrDillyBar (#27) «

#27, i bet you still have a parallel printer, and a serial mod... : eitje (#29) «

#29, USB printer, and Cable for 8ish years.... Edit: Correct... : DrDillyBar (#31) «

#30. Posted at 08:59 PM on Oct 3rd 2006

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kilkennycat

Beware what you wish for...

Current SATA chip-sets do not all support SATA DVD/CD-rom drives, regardless of BIOS updates. Check with your friendly motherboard (or SATA-peripheral) vendor before investing in such a drive.

#11. Posted at 02:34 PM on Oct 3rd 2006

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DrDillyBar

Wasn't SATA originally to have a benign adapter to convert from IDE to SATA and viceversa?

#11, Yes, they exist. I don't know how well they work, though. So... : SGWB (#25) «

#11, I have an Abit Serielle 2 that I used for a while and worked... : Taddeusz (#28) «

#22. Posted at 05:24 PM on Oct 3rd 2006

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crabjokeman

Good riddance.

#16. Posted at 03:57 PM on Oct 3rd 2006

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SpotTheCat

I will spend $30 on a new DVD drive if it has SATA. It will make cable routing a lot easier, that's for sure.

#5. Posted at 02:21 PM on Oct 3rd 2006

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Flying Fox

Yay! Finally!

*dance in rejoice*

#5, I know. WOOHOO! I was about to special order a whole box of S... : continuum (#15) «

#14. Posted at 03:24 PM on Oct 3rd 2006

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Smurfer2

I've been looking forward to this as I like the thin red SATA cables over the bulky IDE Ribbons. (Only reason as performance is not going to change)

#2. Posted at 02:04 PM on Oct 3rd 2006

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barich

That Lite-On is a DVD-ROM/CD-RW combo drive, not a DVD burner.

It's about time. I've got an Intel motherboard with the ICH8 that will be coming shortly, I need an optical drive to go with it, and I don't want an overpriced Plextor.

#2, Asus do one, the 1612BLT (http://in.asus.com/products4.aspx?... : Norphy (#9) «

#7. Posted at 02:24 PM on Oct 3rd 2006

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eitje

:"D

^ tears of joy

#3. Posted at 02:06 PM on Oct 3rd 2006

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Inkedsphynx

Thank god. I am just sick of running cluttery IDE cables, even the round ones, through my case. Sata cables are so much nicer to organize and help keep airflow fully efficient.

And yes, I second the "no more floppy drives" sentiment. Luckily all it's really needed for anymore is bios flashing, and even then it's not always required.