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   #19. Posted at 09:03 PM on Nov 10th 2006, Edited at 09:15 PM on Nov 10th 2006 Edit   Reply
Anomymous Gerbil
I hate the RIAA's tactics as much as the next person (except Vrock), but as posted in an Ars Technica discussion:

the RIAA is actually asking for the minimum statutory damages allowed under 17 USC 504 - "in a sum of not less than $750 or more than $30,000 as the court considers just"

You can argue all you like about how fair/unfair it is, but they're asking for the minimum.
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#19, Keyword is sum I believe, if you pirated one song, would tha...  :  d2brothe  (#34)  «

   #2. Posted at 04:50 PM on Nov 10th 2006 Edit   Reply
crabjokeman
You've committed a crime and are being sued for it. You're supposed to pay ludicrous amounts of money.

If the only consequence of downloading unlicensed content is to pay less than you would have if you'd obtained it legally, aren't more people going to throw itunes out the window and return to P2P?
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#2, but charging 1000+ times the real cost is just as ridiculous...  :  lethal  (#5)  «
#5, It's copyright's way of deterring you. Copyright owners c...  :  Ardrid  (#7)  «
#7, How is that not unconstitutional?  :  CampinCarl  (#9)  «
#9, It is unconstitutional ... only no one really cared...  :  ScythedBlade  (#26)  «
#26, Actually, it also explicitly states "excessive f...  :  CampinCarl  (#31)  «
#31, Fines are government-imposed sanctions, the m...  :  Furen  (#33)  «
#2, When you steal from a company you have to pay restitution i...  :  stix  (#11)  «
#2, No, like other have said before, damages have to be based on...  :  Furen  (#12)  «
#12, The loss they incure is 70 cents. Thats what its worth.  :  stix  (#17)  «
#17, This post is based on my assumption that the case is f...  :  Anomymous Gerbil  (#21)  «

   #32. Posted at 10:34 AM on Nov 11th 2006 Edit   Reply
leor
where brooklyn at!
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   #29. Posted at 05:30 AM on Nov 11th 2006 Edit   Reply
wulfher
I would like to sue M$ for selling to me a complete useless, insecure and unstable System WinXP where i need to download 150+ patches to my costs to keep it "stable" !
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#29, there are security patches, functionality patches, and bug f...  :  shank15217  (#30)  «

   #27. Posted at 11:23 PM on Nov 10th 2006 Edit   Reply
stix
Why is it when big business gets ripped off they can sue for money from the simpletons yet when we get ripped off they get fined and pay the government or state instead of us?
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#27, Right! Sue Intel for $30K if you ever bought a Prescott!  :  Whybee  (#28)  «

   #14. Posted at 07:30 PM on Nov 10th 2006 Edit   Reply
Vrock
I really wouldn't care if they fined copyright violators millions. Or shot them.
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#14, Wait, what's the emocon for rolling eyes again?  :  Spyder22446688  (#16)  «
#14, Thats why we have intelligent people to make laws. And even...  :  stix  (#18)  «
#18, we do? name one.  :  albundy  (#20)  «
#20, Maybe you missed the "And even they suck at it" Part.  :  stix  (#24)  «
#20, The topic is not always the summary damnit  :  ScythedBlade  (#25)  «

   #22. Posted at 09:14 PM on Nov 10th 2006 Edit   Reply
albundy
would be nice to clean up terrorism in your own country first. yes, thats exactly what I'm implying of the RIAA.
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#22, That's because you're not very intelligent, as evidenced by ...  :  Anomymous Gerbil  (#23)  «

   #3. Posted at 04:52 PM on Nov 10th 2006 Edit   Reply
Eckre
Using that logic, I guess when gas stations rip consumers off with faulty meters, when (or if) they get caught, they should only have to repay what they gained by their theft?
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#3, Thats not what the defense is saying. Its just saying the cl...  :  Stranger  (#10)  «
#3, That's exactly what they're saying - in a civil trial, the s...  :  absinthexl  (#13)  «
#3, It would mean more if they gave the money back to who they ...  :  stix  (#15)  «

   #8. Posted at 05:23 PM on Nov 10th 2006 Edit   Reply
VTOL
YES!!! fight the system
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   #6. Posted at 05:13 PM on Nov 10th 2006 Edit   Reply
--k
"Copyright owners often use street-value estimates to calculate losses, but this assumes that every person who bought pirated goods would otherwise have paid for a legitimate item, the report notes."

http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,20713160%5E15306%5E...
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   #4. Posted at 05:08 PM on Nov 10th 2006, Edited at 05:11 PM on Nov 10th 2006 Edit   Reply
--k
This is akin to suiing someone for a $750 for stealing a pack of gum. The punishment doesn't fit the crime.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=660601

"Copyright owners often use street-value estimates to calculate losses, but this assumes that every person who bought pirated goods would otherwise have paid for a legitimate item, the report notes."

http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,20713160%5E15306%5E...
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   #1. Posted at 04:13 PM on Nov 10th 2006 Edit   Reply
Hizpanick
I wonder how fast this will settle out of court.
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