Ahem, the higher MSRP cost then XP and uncertainly among some users are primary factors.

it does not help to build confidence when you had announced a follow-up in 2009 ether.

I'm waiting until all of you bitch the IHVs into some flawless drivers. :)

And, tossing DS3D out the window seems like going backwards. So, I'll be on XP for a long while yet. I actually USE 3D audio (4.1 setup).

overall, the end user experience of Vista evens out. The pretty visuals counter the incredibly annoying UAC prompts when you're trying to set up a system. UAC is nice when you have the system set up already and want to set it up for a non-admin user, yet allow you to administer it if necessary, but other than that the Apple commercial parodying it is right on.

On the other hand, the system managment tools for Vista are leaps and bounds beyond what XP had. the Vista WAIK kit gives you imaging tools and a BOOTABLE Windows PE BOOT CD!! The imaging system is fantastic, I can set up an image on one box and install it on a totally different architecture (Tested Dell Optiplex 745 Core2Duo to Shuttle AthlonXP 2500+ and worked PERFECTLY!). That never used to work with XP, even after sysprepping. THAT I have to admit is impressive. It's something that they should've done long ago, yes, but at least it's there now. For a system admin, Vista is a HUGE upgrade.

Why is it that, when reading this story, the first word to come to my mind was:

"Lemming"?

Gaming is a no go?
Ive been playing BF2 on Vista RC2 since it came out and it works perfectly.There is NO noticable difference than when using XP.

Vista offers nothings new.
DX10 just doesn't matter yet.

Sure, there are loads of new features in Vista, but none of them cannot be done on XP with other tools/utilities. The only "new" things of note are the bugs and sloppy drivers at the moment.

The problem is that the people don't need Vista right now, and also that Vista isn't ready. When XP came out, the only home OS's available were 98SE and ME, one so-so, one horrid. A lot of home users who cared about security and stability were using 2000 as it is. (I still think anyone who bought ME shoulda got XP free)

XP is leaps and bounds above the options we were stuck with 5 1/2 years ago. The switch just isn't as compelling right now. Not to mention the many driver issues. How could so many hardware vendors get caught with their pants down? I could see it happening in '01, but that's a long time to learn your lesson by now.

Double ASPs despite less sales? Success! OEM product shoveling and Average Joe avalanches FTW! :P

If this is "bad news" for MS, then I wish I had that kind of "problem" haha.

I wonder how many sales of XP were done specifically with an eye towards the Vista upgrade coupon included in the box? I know I've seen several people in the forums here on TR and other sites who bought and installed XP but are planning to use the coupon to switch over to Vista once some of the driver issues are resolved (or SP1 is out, or whatever they're waiting on).

Well the OS is a freakin system whore, the drivers for it suck so far, plus DRM up the @$$, so yea, i wonder why people aren't upgrading as fast. Give it 6 months i would say for drivers to mature and system hardware to catch up some and then Vista probably will be fine then. Get rid of the RIAA and MPAA and all their BS DRM they wanted in the OS and it will be great.

Oh yea, currently running dual boot b/t Vista Business and XP Pro. Have been running Vista since Beta 2, it has come a long ways since then, but it still has a little more to go, most of it not M$'s fault tho. Also i don't blame M$ for all the DRM, since i know they weren't the ones who whined and bitched and complain to have it all in there. ... stupid movie and music industry, i hope they all go down in a firebomb of doom.

But aren't there 3 Licenses in the SBP included?

This brings compare to XP for 120, Vista 220/3 ~70 per PC Price

Got Win98SE as a Beta Tester.
Got Win2k shortly after it was released.
Got XP when it neared SP1.
Beta Tested XBOX live.
Got Vista Ultimate the day of.

Saving for educational purposes good.

I jumped on Xp the first day it was out and I jumped on Vista the first day it was out.

I like Vista so far, I think its pretty neat. When drivers finally mature, it will be even better.

Cant wait to get my hands on a DX10 game.

Try and remember businesses could buy Vista way back on November 30th.

With XP, it was the same day for business and consumers.

Business sales of Vista have been very good.

I'm going to wait until SP1 and avoid any headaches with my computer and the campus network here (they don't/won't support it yet).

No crap it's behind XP launch sales. Just look at the trash we were dealing with back when XP launched, as others had mentioned, most of the upgrades were from Windows 98/ME, which was a horrible pile of trash (especially ME). The difference between that and XP was like night and day for system stability and usefulness. Now, people have much less of a reason to upgrade, especially with all the built-in "goodies" Vista shoves down users throats.

Anybody running 64-bit? Just wondering your impressions of it.

Other than getting a free copy from say a work perk, has anyone in this thread running Vista actually spent any of their own money buying it?

# 4?

cant imagine why.

taking control away from the user makes user very very angry = me, until i hack the living shiat out of vista to make it work my way.

Look at what people upgraded from to get to XP. Either 98 or ME for consumers. I was in that first week's sales for XP Home specifically for that reason.

The OS situation is not so dire when it comes to XP -> Vista