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I'm sorry - I'm all for bashing Apple, but this really sounds like an OS shortcoming. So much for protecting systems from user apps in Vista, eh?

[Edit: whoops. Reply to #s 4, 5, and 6.]

Both you guys are being a little shortsighted - I agree that the number one thing (as I suggested before) is for Apple to fix this - but don't you think it speaks of a larger issue?

Seriously, wasn't one of the big things Vista was supposed to solve *exactly* this? Certainly you'd agree that Vista isn't *just* a UI upgrade.

Apple is keen (in its ads) to make a big deal about how Vista can be cumbersome and overprotective ... seems like this overprotective nature is not only annoying at times, but not yet sufficient. It's ironic that, in my opinion, the failure of the thing that they're making fun of will cause them a huge headache.

Talking about quicktime, since the last update of QT to fix the java vulnerability the quictime plugin makes my firefox crash after a few seconds, I looked it up and it seems that others have the issue and it helps to remove adblock (haha, I guess they mean remove quicktime eh).
So it makes you wonder exactly how badly quicktime was messed up by their 'fixes' and what the hell they did to it.

I use no apple products on my box... everything they install has to be some sort of malware or run 5 processes when I boot up.

quicktime blows...well deserved. who uses that POS? Give me a break!

I guess we'll find out who is at fault when a fix is released. Either it will be a new Quicktime version, new Intel drivers or a MS Vista update. Or maybe it might take 2 or all three to release a fix before it's fixed. I'll reserve judgment until I see who fixes it.

This MAY not be just an ICH8R issue. I run a RAID-1 setup on a Gigabyte GA-P965-DS3 using Vista-x64. After installing the latest quicktime update (using Apple's auto updater), I would get constant blue-screens on boot (with 0 usable information about where it crashed). However, booting to safe mode and using system restore seemed to fix things.

Things to note:
- The DS3 only has RAID support via the JMicron JMB363 chip. Unlike the DS3P, this board only has ICH8 (not R).
- This board has been somewhat flakey in Vista x64 anyway (sometimes it doesn't resume from S3 - not sure if it's the board, Vista or the Nvidia card). It may just be coincidence that I installed quicktime right before it took a break.
- In order to cause a blue screen or RAID problems, quicktime must be using a kernel driver. I wouldn't necessarily blame MS right off the bat.

STOP THE BLOAT......

http://www.free-codecs.com/QuickTime_Alternative_download.htm

take a step further......

http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader_2/down_reader.htm

That's plain stupid. And bad QA.

I guess we'll find out who is at fault when a fix is released. Either it will be a new Quicktime version, new Intel drivers or a MS Vista update. Or maybe it might take 2 or all three to release a fix before it's fixed. I'll reserve judgment until I see who fixes it.

That's not definitive proof of anything. Microsoft has more than once issued a fix because the third party vendors were too busy pointing fingers or picking their nose.

Does anyone know if this affects XP? I have an ICH8R-based system I'm about to use the RAID on soon (RAID 1), but I'm not using Vista (and have no plans to). Should I be worried about this?

Here's an easy solution that I've been doing for years.

Google QuickTime Alternative and uninstall QuickTime. The same can be done for Real.

Maybe Microsoft and Apple can Zune work together to solve this issue. But with all of the mud-slinging that Apple is doing to the PC (while selling devices that work with the PC - go figure), sometimes I wonder if there isn't something of a publicity stunt factor at work to some degree.

Does this happen on any OTHER RAID setup? Maybe its not an MS or an Apple issue, but an Intel one? Drivers or hardware bug?

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html

why...I don't see Vista even on the list of supported OS's!

Think maybe Apple might already know there are some issues with QuickTime for Windows still?

Shouldn't the article read "Intel ICH8R chipset" RAID instead of just "RAID"? I mean, I see no proof presented whatever that this problem afflicts all RAID systems equally if it affects them all in the first place. All RAID is certainly not equal, as everybody should know, and all RAID systems require different drivers, as should also be widely known. Sounds to me like there's something strange going on here in the user's RAID drivers--or, I'm also wondering if this isn't some bug possibly in the QuickTime DRM code which causes QT to somehow see Intel ICH8R chipset RAID as something else, something that needs wiping out?...;) I surely don't know--but then, I don't use "Intel ICH8R chipset" RAID in the first place--I use Promise Fasttrack TX4200 RAID--and have never had such a problem.

Wasn't the new driver model in vista supposed to stop this exact sort of thing?

This smells like a bug in the underlying OS or device driver, which QuickTime just happens to expose. Unless Apple is somehow exploiting undocumented "back door" interfaces to the mass storage subsystem, this is almost surely a MS and/or Intel issue.

My money's on it being Intel's fault, if the reports of it only affecting ICH8R users are accurate.