Comments for: Apple's rationale for shunning 3G explored

#8. Posted at 06:57 PM on Jul 18th 2007

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I still think the rationale behind the lack of 3G for the iPhone is poor, at best. Let's not forget one simple fact in the Blackjack 3G comparison test: you can switch between 3G and Edge networks!

If the iPhone had the same option, then there would be absolutely no downside to allowing 3G access.

The fact is, power consumption is not a real justification for not including 3G on the iPhone. Jobs and Apple screwed up; plain and simple.

#8, Umm, yes it is. That and keeping the size of it manageable. ... : adisor19 (#9) «

#9, What!?? I guess Apple could've gone with even older techn... : MethylONE (#11) «

#11, Using the Apple reasoning, maybe we ought to switch to... : syadasti (#16) «

#16, That's a ridiculous analogy; the iPhone's existence... : SPOOFE (#27) «

#16, Toyota did that with it's hybrid, actually. : TO11MTM (#38) «

#38, No its multimode: 1. Electric vehicle mode 2. Crui... : syadasti (#56) «

#16, It is compared to a T-Mobile Dash, which is essenti... : Corrado (#39) «

#16, Maybe not, but its battery life sux when in 3G mode... : adisor19 (#41) «

#16, Truly a poor analogy because it is multi-ratio gear... : BiffStroganoffsky (#46) «

#46, Wrightspeed X1 Electric Car beats Ferrari and Po... : syadasti (#55) «

#11, Again, no it's not. They chose between good battery li... : adisor19 (#19) «

#11, "What!?? I guess Apple could've gone with even older t... : blastdoor (#28) «

#9, I'm sure if they wanted 3G, they could've put it in there... : Nitrodist (#57) «

#22. Posted at 12:03 AM on Jul 19th 2007

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FireGryphon

Apple usually does stuff for good reasons, so I'm not surprised by AnandTech's findings.

#22, I'd still rather have more options and be allowed to choose ... : Namarrgon (#32) «

#32, And if they did include 3G there'd be a HUGE outcry about... : Corrado (#35) «

#35, Funny, I must have missed the HUGE outcry about the ho... : Namarrgon (#54) «

#35, A huge outcry? Oh, wait, you'd have the option of SHUT... : Nitrodist (#58) «

#32, I would want that too, and i hope the iPhone hacker commu... : adisor19 (#43) «

#5. Posted at 06:28 PM on Jul 18th 2007

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adisor19

My HTC TyTn kills the battery whenever i talk while being in a UMTS cell. It also gets very warm to the touch if i talk for a long time in UMTS.. Looks like Jobs or whoever took the decision to stick with EDGE, took the right one.

Adi

#5, The iphone can also get very hot. : imtheunknown176 (#15) «

#15, Really ? Says who? i didn't see it mention in any reviews... : adisor19 (#20) «

#20, http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/iphone-review.... : Mithent (#33) «

#33, Ok i guess it's the same thing as my TyTn when in 3... : adisor19 (#44) «

#5, If you don't like it, set the network on the TyTn to GSM onl... : Namarrgon (#17) «

#17, I COULD do that but what's the point ? I paid $$ for a de... : adisor19 (#21) «

#21, Meaning what? It's a lot faster than Edge, and you als... : Namarrgon (#31) «

#31, Have you ever used a phone with EDGE on it? Its not... : Corrado (#34) «

#34, Not that I'm a fan nor a user of any of those te... : poulpy (#36) «

#36, Not sure if you realize it, but the ~ 400kbps... : Corrado (#37) «

#37, Well unless I need glasses you wrote "15kb... : poulpy (#40) «

#40, Because real world users state their tr... : Corrado (#45) «

#45, That's not what I meant I know what ... : poulpy (#47) «

#34, Yes, my phone does EDGE as well as HSDPA, and I ... : Namarrgon (#52) «

#31, Yes, I'd rather have the iPhone then the HUGE TyTn,... : adisor19 (#42) «

#42, As a user of a Windows Mobile phone -- I'm gonna... : A_Pickle (#48) «

#48, Maybe you didn't catch the fact that i HAVE t... : adisor19 (#51) «

#51, That's why I've already upgraded mine to W... : Namarrgon (#53) «

#2. Posted at 05:05 PM on Jul 18th 2007

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Ricardo Dawkins

this is old...as old iPhone...as old news day. seriously.

#2, It's like Anna Nicole Smith... but it's a phone... : A_Pickle (#49) «

#49, haha :D : sigher (#50) «

#4. Posted at 05:56 PM on Jul 18th 2007

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5150

Jesus I'm already sick of hearing about the gawdam iPhone. Pretty much anything that starts with an "i" can DIAF.

#4, agreed my good sir :] : Reldey (#6) «

#6, i would like to third that notion : moose17145 (#10) «

#4, I will fourth the motion to "stop already!" with the iPhone ... : WaltC (#14) «

#14, The iPhone is, in fact, a computer. You can surf the web,... : FireGryphon (#23) «

#23, Can you overclock it? : SPOOFE (#26) «

#26, Bugger that, can it fold? : Plinth (#29) «

#23, It might be a computer if you could run your applicati... : Namarrgon (#30) «

#4, Agreed. EVery other story on Engadget is iPhone related. It's... : Spotpuff (#24) «

#25. Posted at 12:44 AM on Jul 19th 2007, Edited at 12:44 AM on Jul 19th 2007

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williej81

Using old technology on new products will never work! Look at the Wii and how terrible it's doing!

# 3G coverage is spotty at best in North America. WCDMA and GS... : lemonhead (#18) «

#12. Posted at 08:42 PM on Jul 18th 2007

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MethylONE

Also... Anyone else here notice that whenever a flaw in an Apple product makes news Apple spins the 'flaw' into a 'feature?'

This must be one of the Jobs Commandments.

#7. Posted at 06:43 PM on Jul 18th 2007

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adisor19

No no, keep the iPhone news coming !! I can't wait for the day that the SIM unlock for the iPhone will be released by some skilled hacker :)

Adi

#1. Posted at 05:01 PM on Jul 18th 2007

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FunkeeC

I can state from my experience using an 8525 that 3G kills my battery time whether browsing, email, or IM. It made sense to me that if they wanted decent battery life they would stay 2.5G with edge.

#1, On my 8525, you can restrict it to use Edge-only, and enable... : Namarrgon (#3) «