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   #13. Posted at 11:54 AM on Oct 22nd 2007 Edit   Reply

i think AMD will be around untill intel can supply the world alone,thats as long as intel can stay on top in the performace.On another note u think u would be able to get a quad core intel chip for 266bucks if amd wasnt around i dont think so it would be double the price!or more!
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   #6. Posted at 08:26 AM on Oct 19th 2007 Edit   Reply

the initial production ramp has been slower than anticipated. The problem isn't yields, which Meyer said are "right where we expected them to be." Rather, Meyer stated that AMD needs to "tune the design to the technology."

I'd like to know what that means. "Tune the design to the technology". What? What does that mean? Either you can produce an adequate supply or you can't, right?

A 400 million loss sucks. So isn't that about 1.6 billion lost over the last three quarters? I've always been pleased with AMD's products and I hope they stick around, but I can't imagine how they've managed to stick around this long while losing money at that rate.
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   #9. Posted at 11:23 AM on Oct 19th 2007 Edit   Reply

Processor design and fabrication is a pretty intricate dance. The designers get the overall design in, make changes and revisions, and then sign off of the product for manufacturing. This basically means that the design is 100% working (though there will always be errata), and it is aimed at a maximum clockspeed on AMD's process. Now the process guys run a couple of wafers through and do a very thorough analysis of the results. These first results are typically slow, because the design in theory may not be exactly what they see once production starts.

So when Dirk says "tune the design to the technology" that means the fabrication engineers make changes to the overall design, especially in the metal layers, to make the chip run faster and get better yields and bins. A lot of work goes on unseen at the Fab, and they constantly tweak the process and the processor design (eg. watch out for critical speed paths that could negatively affect the overall binning) and make changes where needed. About 4 months after initial production, we should expect to see them iron out most of the problems with the design and process, and then clock speeds and yields will really go up to a optimal level.
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   #2. Posted at 06:55 AM on Oct 19th 2007 Edit   Reply

"Our yields are right where we expected them to be"

Translation:
Native quad core yields are crap. They're right where we expected them to be.
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   #3. Posted at 07:44 AM on Oct 19th 2007 Edit   Reply

"The company believes it "clearly gained share"in the mobile market"

You know, I'd actually believe it. I see a lot more turion laptops than I ever did Athlon laptops these days.
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