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   #19. Posted at 01:40 PM on Dec 7th 2007, Edited at 01:43 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

I've used nothing but AMD since 1999, and don't regret at all that I bought an Intel C2D e6750 two months ago. I'm neither any Intel nor AMD fanboy, and I think the Phenom is the biggest crap AMD has released since the K6-III.

The Netburst-archictecture was mostly a piece of crap unless you were into video-editing. Intel gaining back the performance crown massivelywith the C2D CPU made me go Intel this time.

My P35 motherboard and e6750 overclocked to 3,2 GHz gives me a very fast and extremely stable system I would never switch for a slower and unstable Spider/Phenom system.

Fanboyism is just stupid, making you pay more money for less performance just because you have a prejudice that a particular brand is better than the competition, even though facts and numbers tell the opposite to some crazyass dream.
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   #23. Posted at 01:51 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

One way or another, this helps AMD's credibility.
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   #29. Posted at 03:00 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

Will there be a patch? Maybe we could do a Core 2 Quad patch versus Phenom TLB patch runoff?
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#41, Precisely ;-)  :   (#44)  «

   #1. Posted at 12:43 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

How could it not effect Xeon?
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   #37. Posted at 07:08 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

I have to congrat TR for at least posting "the other side of the story".

This is not the popular opinion, but it's Intel that has everything to lose, while AMD has everything to gain. AMD just got an 8% stake from the arabs, and if you've been following them, they seem to quickly raise any amount of money it takes to stay in biz thru the design cycles.

While Intel longs and employees hope like hell that AMD goes bust, so Intel can get back to biz as usual, AMD has continued to gain share virtually every quarter for the last 4 years.

The cpu biz is extremely high over head, high fixed cost biz. Once you hit enough volume to break even, the profits quickly mount. Conversely, if Intel loses share to the point where it can't keep it's fabs full, it's profits will evaporate overnight.

While I congratulate Intel on a fine job with the C2D, remember that 45nm is not a new design, it's a new process. It shouldn't require debugging like the brand new K10/spider platform will. I'm confident once the K10 and spider mature, people won't be able to say enough good things about their buddies at AMD.

Plus
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   #40. Posted at 09:11 PM on Dec 7th 2007, Edited at 09:12 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

So, in addition to Intel NOT confirming this supposed bug, the originator of the rumor
has now retracted its "confirmed by Intel" update from the story.

Looks like this one might not be true, after all.

http://www.hardware.fr/news/9264/yorkfield-retardes.html

Old version with "confirmed": http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:4hXjS3iZw1AJ:www.hardware.fr/n.../9264/yorkfield-retardes-confirme.html+%22l%27in...[4]
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   #39. Posted at 09:01 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

unless of course the source got it wrong and it was a case that intel is delaying 45nm quads due to an amd bug resulting in no competing product til march

i'll be waiting for nehalem performance details to come out before making an upgrade of either amd or intel anyway
so if current quads are buggy i don't care as long as they have it fixed it by around '08q3/4
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   #35. Posted at 06:29 PM on Dec 7th 2007, Edited at 06:32 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

Wow! Intel has so much money they can afford to fix the problem BEFORE the release of the chip. AMD bought ATI and ruined things in the short term for themselves. I hope Bulldozer and Fusion and the new 45nm process tech pay off. (Before you chime in about 45nm, AMD is using all new materials for 45nm than they did with the doomed 65nm.

If Intel had bought ATI, I wonder how well they would be doing now LOL....
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   #34. Posted at 05:17 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

Am I seeing deja vu?

I think I've read boing's comment at least 5 times by now.
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   #25. Posted at 01:59 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

I stand corrected. :) I was referring to the price-tag of the K6-III and the Netburst-CPU's being able to replace your stove for cooking.
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   #24. Posted at 01:59 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

Any word on exactly what kind of errata this is? If it was one similar to AMD's 298, that would actually be kind of funny.
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   #12. Posted at 01:32 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

Hello, Captain Obvious, was #4 just joking?
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   #4. Posted at 01:02 PM on Dec 7th 2007 Edit   Reply

Intel is doomed! OMGBBQ!!!!111ONE!!!!
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