AMD dont need to catch up Intel to compete. Staying close is enough to make a good competition and wait for a proper time to do the overtake. Patience is the key. ^_<

When you're financially bleeding to death, exactly how patient should shareholders be?

AMD needs to leapfrog Intel again, a la Thunderbird and early Athlon X2. But I don't see that happening.

AMD dont need to catch up Intel to compete. Staying close is enough to make a good competition and wait for a proper time to do the overtake. Patience is the key. ^_<

Good news for AMD, they've had so many issues with this so far. I imagine they've lost quite a bit of income because of this. They really should have done the "hacky" dual-die quad-core method back in 2006.

Wonder if they've fixed any other speed issues, or if they'll still be "trundling" (yeah, it's still pretty fast!) along at under 2.5GHz.

If the retail Yorkfield quads perform like expected,it's sayonara for Phenom in the high end user market.
Ironic given the amount of times"Wait for K8L / K10" was thrown around here......
Without 3GHz clockspeeds they stand no chance against 45 nano Penryn Quads.

#2 Don't quote me, but as I remember it, the whole reason we didn't see higher clock speeds on the previous release was, because the TLB error would have a higher chance of occuring above 2.3Ghz. We should see higher clock speeds and some minor tweaks. Since the TLB fix should improve performance overall, along with other fixes, we should see a little performance boost. However, as far as I can tell, other then the 2.4 and 2.6Ghz models that will be comming out, there are no major performance improvements to the core until C1. Which will be 45nm, and be mostly be just a shrink to get costs down, and some changes to the memory controlers. I heard that it's already in the mix from a couple diffrent sources, so we can expect those sometime around the end of the year.

I bet the AMD boys have been dreaming about fully programable cores since Sept. Nvidia has a really nice setup in this arena. I bet they'd be willing to lend them for a few bucks on the side too.

Cant wait.
While Intel is largely a better value propisition right now, there are still people who'd rather have the extra two cores for as cheap as possible, and getting rid of that performance eater is great news.

Does B3 offer any other improvements aside from the TLB fix? Or is this revision the exact same as B2 except that one detail? Basically, will this spin be faster/cooler?