Comments for: Isaiah beats Atom in early ALU, FPU benchmarks

#42. Posted at 02:10 AM on Apr 20th 2008, Edited at 02:10 AM on Apr 20th 2008

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Dirge

Maybe someone with access to this gear needs to post the performance per watt of these CPUs, alongside a range of conventional desktop and mobile processors.

#12. Posted at 04:57 PM on Apr 18th 2008

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swaaye

In other news, the HP 2133 mininote is apparently a furnace even though the C7-M CPU is a very cool little chip.
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4352

#12, Wow. All that heat for so little performance. As I said when ... : UberGerbil (#13) «

#13, I think the Isaiah chip is pin compatible so who knows if... : Dirge (#22) «

#22, That would make sense, since that is the weakest link ... : Xenolith (#38) «

#38, Well, there's clearly a cooling design issue. But b... : UberGerbil (#40) «

#13, Agreed. I love my EeePC to death and I am thinking about ... : d0g_p00p (#41) «

#12, haha 114 on the wrist rest? wtf? : indeego (#23) «

#12, The eeepc is supposedly more or less the same scorching temp... : dlenmn (#25) «

#39. Posted at 07:55 PM on Apr 19th 2008

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pogsnet

Good for Isaiah!!! Its a good comeback... How about beat the core2?

#9. Posted at 04:26 PM on Apr 18th 2008

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Dirge

Pretty good to see focus on this market segment. I hope for a fan less desktop pc in my future.

#9, There's always water cooling :p : Price0331 (#14) «

#14, I haven't played with water cooling. Something about wate... : Dirge (#20) «

#20, Via's C5 (and I think C7) CPUs can be run without heat... : Voldenuit (#21) «

#20, AMD's mobile K6-III+ was capable of running passively ... : just brew it! (#24) «

#24, I thought the K6-III+ was just a die shrinked K6-II... : srg86 (#26) «

#26, Yes, it was a die shrink, with minor tweaks. But... : just brew it! (#31) «

#9, It has been quite easy to have a fanless desktop PC. General... : Bombadil (#32) «

#32, Generally there's no point to it because hard drives and ... : just brew it! (#34) «

#34, Unless you're referring to the fan noise from the vide... : elpresidente (#36) «

#36, but (also) the voltage regulation portions of the m... : just brew it! (#37) «

#9, Amusingly, I just helped a friend with a machine that was sp... : UberGerbil (#33) «

#27. Posted at 11:46 AM on Apr 19th 2008

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gaffo

what about x87?

decent - like core/athlon or crappy like the c7?

#27, Do you know that FPU benchmarks test x87 performance? : Shining Arcanine (#29) «

#29, no i don't know that anymore. I see alot of SSE/SSE2/etc..... : gaffo (#35) «

#15. Posted at 06:04 PM on Apr 18th 2008

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bdwilcox

Does anyone else notice a trend in these micro laptops where the design of every component has basically been "it's good enough to get the job done"? Before, with normal size laptops, you always had trade offs to hit certain needs and market segments (size, weight, battery life, etc.). But with all the limitations these small form factors entail, it seems the design philosophy has reversed itself.

Before, when designing a regular laptop, you would take a certain performance envelope and trim a little here and there, and ultimately try to keep the laptop competitive with what the market considered acceptable performance for a current laptop. With these micro laptops, it seems the engineers start with zero and then say, "OK, how much do we need of memory, screen size, CPU power, to get the job done?" Rather than trying to compete with other laptops, it seems they compete with the basic requirements to run the OS and some apps.

I'm not complaining, but it just seems like a paradigm shift in laptop design.

#15, I think it's a reflection of a paradigm shift in the way we ... : IntelMole (#16) «

#16, Certain aspects of the Eee PC are actually superior to mo... : Shining Arcanine (#30) «

#15, No, I think it's just setting a different set of design prio... : UberGerbil (#17) «

#15, argeed - insighful post. It obvious to me that in 2-3 years ... : gaffo (#28) «

#19. Posted at 08:03 PM on Apr 18th 2008

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Rza79

These are the results UMPCPortal reported a week ago of an 1Ghz Isaiah. They just added 60% to those scores ...

http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1405

#18. Posted at 07:08 PM on Apr 18th 2008

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lolento

With Nvidia making their chipset, the Via-nvidia combo may be the winners in the mobile computing niche.

#2. Posted at 03:31 PM on Apr 18th 2008

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cygnus1

good for via

and slightly off topic, does anybody build a normal size and weight laptop with these kind of procs and just get crazy battery times?

#2, Neither of these processors is being sold in any laptop yet. : UberGerbil (#4) «

#4, i was more meaning any of the really low power versions o... : cygnus1 (#7) «

#7, The problem is that the CPU is far from the most drain... : jdevers (#8) «

#8, that could only be used in the sun ;) So you slap a ... : UberGerbil (#10) «

#10, yeah, i see what you guys are talking about, the... : cygnus1 (#11) «

#6. Posted at 03:48 PM on Apr 18th 2008

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wingless

Now license HT 3.0 and make a desktop CPU that can beat a Core 2 and we'll care! jk jk jk.... Honestly though, this news was expected. Isaiah is more of a modern processor compared to Atom's in-order design. Via isn't new to the CPU game and its about time they showed up with some numbers. I really want to see how each fares in multicore form in the low-end laptop segment. A dual core, 4 thread, Atom vs. a dual core, 2 thread Isaiah will be a shootout.

#1. Posted at 03:30 PM on Apr 18th 2008

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ChronoReverse

Clock for clock is a pretty pointless comparison considering the Atom was designed for higher clocks while keeping the thermal envelope low

#1, agreed, the only meaningful benchmarks for these procs will ... : cygnus1 (#3) «

#1, Exactly. They've just demonstrated the difference between "i... : UberGerbil (#5) «