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   #44. Posted at 09:09 PM on May 4th 2008 Edit   Reply

Man that sucks. I have the old UltraSharp 2005FPW and love it. I was looking at the 24" series and I hated the new stand. I like the oval stand on the old models and that made me look at something other than Dell. I ended up with the Samsung. I guess I am lucky because I have yet to have any of the issues you had.

That sucks though, I know how excited I was when I purchased both of my widescreen displays. If I had to return them I would be extra depressed.
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   #46. Posted at 04:23 PM on May 6th 2008, Edited at 04:33 PM on May 6th 2008 Edit   Reply

I own a 2408WFP and i have to agree that the colors on this screen are well over saturated. The reds (depending on the hue) do sear the retinas beyond comparison. Other than that I haven't had issues with any of the other items listed. I have noticed some input lag, yes. But only when running Office 2k7. Everything else seems to respond just fine (at least for what I do). I'm not the fastest typist, but at 70wpm I think I would notice something. My color perception isn't the best (thankfully I don't work in the graphics industry ;•) so I can live with that. I haven't detected any sort of hum when adjusting the brightness.

In all fairness AbRASiON, this really IS my first flat panel display coming off of 8 years of CRT use so my glasses may be of a particular rose color, but so far I love this display (with the exception of the reds). I haven't had the finances nor the resources to really do any sort of head to head comparisons, making this a good display for me all around.

Having read all this I don't know if I would further recommend this display to anyone else. I'm bound to do some more testing and reading to see if this monitor really fits my bill, but I have to say that so far I'm happy.

HOORJ for rose colored glasses :•)

Thanks for the review Cyril
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   #45. Posted at 10:24 PM on May 5th 2008 Edit   Reply

The majority of these reviewers praising this stuff get it for free or a newbie sites.
They are so excited to have a 24" Display on their desk, they see it with rose coloured glasses.

This applies to a large quantity of web reviews, also sometimes they are just plain paid off - although I'd say that's more rare.

I purchased a 2407 HC edition and found the poor viewing angle and backlight bleeding made Oblivion completely unplayable for me unfortunately - I sold it and just play console games now.
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   #43. Posted at 04:14 PM on May 4th 2008 Edit   Reply

I love my Samsung 245T. No complaints at all, and none of the issues you discuss.
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   #42. Posted at 12:27 PM on May 3rd 2008 Edit   Reply

Geez you guys are too picky - I'd be damn happy with a 2408wfp....
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   #41. Posted at 10:03 PM on May 2nd 2008 Edit   Reply

AnandTech recent 24" LCD roundup review has awarded Dell 2408WFP a silver and achieve best overall performance apart form the minor msecond input lag...
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   #34. Posted at 05:14 PM on Apr 29th 2008, Edited at 05:16 PM on Apr 29th 2008 Edit   Reply

Go for a NEC with a S-IPS panel (such as this http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/review/2007/04/12/NEC-MultiS... ) and you won't be disappointed.
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   #39. Posted at 09:46 AM on May 2nd 2008 Edit   Reply

Get a Samsung or an HP display. They're excellent quality, and the only difference is that the HP displays will be glossy versus the matte-ness of the Samsungs.
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   #36. Posted at 10:52 AM on Apr 30th 2008, Edited at 10:59 AM on Apr 30th 2008 Edit   Reply

New display issues are a bummer, Cyril.

Have you considered a 32" 1080p LCD TV for use as your display? I've just done this about three weeks ago and I'm still in awe of my desktop. Toshiba 32RV530U connected with a DVI -> HDMI cable from monoprice; cost me less than the Dell 2707WFP would have.

Sharp also has a 32" 1080p Aquos that is apparently really nice.

Je ne sais pas sur le prix en France... mais je pense qu'il... uh... merite... regarder? Crap, my French is a lot worse than I remembered. Time to dig out the books again. And accents don't show up in comments. :/

One caveat: it's great for use as a PC monitor if your average viewing distance is about 1 meter from your display... closer than that and it might seem too big. Also it works great as a TV from 2 or 3 meters but the further back you go the less the 1080p part comes into play. Still great for a Wii, though. :)
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   #32. Posted at 09:48 AM on Apr 29th 2008 Edit   Reply

I got a 2408WFP a month ago. My main usage is for running AutoCAD. Play FPS occassionally. Did finish COD4 no problem. I cant understand the claim that the input lag is so bad that it become noticeable when typing. Cyril must the fastest typist in the world or he got a lousy keyboard & mice combo...
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   #31. Posted at 08:20 AM on Apr 29th 2008 Edit   Reply

I have two 2001FPs and a 2407WFP

No issues at all with any of them. I hate when a good product goes bad.
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   #19. Posted at 11:48 AM on Apr 27th 2008 Edit   Reply

Bummer. We've got (6) 2408WFPb monitors here in the office - two of them I use myself. They are perfect. The other two people in the office using them haven't mentioned any issues. They're just totally gorgeous.
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   #29. Posted at 11:01 PM on Apr 28th 2008, Edited at 11:13 PM on Apr 28th 2008 Edit   Reply

Don't mean to put salt in the wound, but...

http://www.behardware.com/articles/712-2/lcd-david-vs-goliath-iolai...

Ouch.

Thanks for being the beta tester of this one though. Well, if you can find one, I believe the Dell 2007WFP is one of the rare gems in the Dell lineup.
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   #28. Posted at 10:02 PM on Apr 28th 2008 Edit   Reply

For the the folks who have seen color blotching with ClearType -- this is after optimizing things with the Tuner?
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   #27. Posted at 07:31 PM on Apr 28th 2008 Edit   Reply

I have the 2407 WFP, I'll express my complaints.

With clear type I also get pretty bad colour blotching.

While I have no real problem with the stands design, the two legs of the "V" curve up so they don't touch the desk. Leaving me with an unstable display. I've put a 1/4" stack of post it notes under each leg.

The display also flickers on start up. It takes about a minute for the bulbs to warm up and the flickering to stop.

I haven't been able to get the red bias right. I haven't fiddled around with it to much, but I have made more adjustments than should be expected.
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   #26. Posted at 05:17 PM on Apr 28th 2008 Edit   Reply

I'd rather spend my money on an Eizo...
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   #24. Posted at 11:40 AM on Apr 28th 2008 Edit   Reply

When i was looking for a new display a while back, I was eyeing the magnificent 2005fpw. Doing the normal research, I had found a dell forum thread listing major problems with it after it's initial release. They mentioned mostly back-light problems and/or dead pixels.

This was the first 20" widescreen flatpanel from Dell that used the same display as the 20" Apple Cinema display. So I waited until I read that a new A01 revision had been released and when people rma'd theirs to get this updated display, the problems went away. This was when i bought 2 and have been extremely happy with them ever since.

Only minor problems have been the amazing brightness when they were new which after over a year has diminished somewhat. Or, i just got used to it. This wasn't a necessarily a bad thing, but it was so bright, it was hard to look at it without other lights on in the room to compensate.

The only other bad point was the tendency to have temporary burn-in. If you view an all white image over the entire screen, you'll see a faint ghost image of the Windows taskbar at the bottom. After about 30 seconds to a minute, it goes away.
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   #17. Posted at 08:52 AM on Apr 27th 2008 Edit   Reply

Does anyone know if Apple cinema displays are any good? I know they're expensive but it might be worth it?
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   #21. Posted at 06:42 PM on Apr 27th 2008 Edit   Reply

Im using a Olevia 42 Inch 1080P and loving it...
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   #20. Posted at 03:23 PM on Apr 27th 2008 Edit   Reply

Great, just what I need; a tale of woe for one of my dream items.

First the 30 inch goes away now this.

Where have you gone Joe Dimaggio.

ps- thanks for the heads-up.
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   #18. Posted at 09:37 AM on Apr 27th 2008 Edit   Reply

It's unfortunate that you have had all these problems with your WFP2408. I'm glad that my 2407WFP-HC has been working great since I bought it 9 months ago.
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   #16. Posted at 04:29 AM on Apr 27th 2008 Edit   Reply

Sorry to hear about your experience Cyril. If you can afford it, I would recommend looking at Eizo's S2431W which uses a normal gamut S-PVA panel. I haven't seen it in person but from what I have read it is a great all arounder. The only downside is that it won't take a 1920x1080 signal from consoles and standalone players (HD2441W would do that, but it's far more expensive) so essentially it's a PC-only display. As long as you're OK with that it should fit the bill nicely.

Here's a professional review at prad.de
http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2007/review-eizo-s2431w.html#...

and some user reviews (in German) at prad's forum:
http://prad.de/board/board.php?boardid=255
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   #15. Posted at 01:48 AM on Apr 27th 2008 Edit   Reply

I've just passed 2.5 years on my 2405FPW. It came with 2 dead pixels but they aren't very conspicuous, and I've had zero problems with it. I have been very happy with this screen, and I think it's part of what gave Dell such a fantastic reputation for large LCD's. But as with all things it seems, they don't make em like they used to. I wish you the best luck in finding something good.
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   #14. Posted at 12:22 AM on Apr 27th 2008, Edited at 12:22 AM on Apr 27th 2008 Edit   Reply

Just another vote for the BenQ FP241W here. They are so nice, I bought two.
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   #7. Posted at 02:09 PM on Apr 26th 2008, Edited at 02:46 PM on Apr 26th 2008 Edit   Reply

Just how much did you want to spend to get a decent picture?
http://www.eizo.com/products/graphics/index.asp
http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Series/?series=f52d7f47-df4d-422...

You may want to look for a new monitor off of this list:
http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/s-ips-lcd-list.php

Once you've got it, one of these may help:
http://spyder.datacolor.com/s3compare.php
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   #1. Posted at 12:29 PM on Apr 26th 2008, Edited at 12:42 PM on Apr 26th 2008 Edit   Reply

You might want to look into the DoubleSight DS-263N 26"? Its an S-IPS display thats reported to have to surprisingly little input lag. HardForum's Display board has a very long thread about it:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1268063

That forum has quite a few in-depth threads about various monitors. Makes for interesting reading.
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   #10. Posted at 07:32 PM on Apr 26th 2008 Edit   Reply

On a side-note, does anybody know if using the DisplayPort on the 2408wfp vs DVI provide any better picture quality or color enhancements?
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   #9. Posted at 07:25 PM on Apr 26th 2008 Edit   Reply

Rough. But mine is of the 2x05 generation.
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   #8. Posted at 05:23 PM on Apr 26th 2008 Edit   Reply

Recently bought a Benq FP241W and very pleased so far. Colours still need some adjustment to get closer to the small S-IPS screen I've upgraded from, but I've certainly not had the catalogue of obnoxious problems you're describing Cyril. I picked mine up for £400 (including VAT), which is cheaper than the 2408WFP in the UK. I'd recommend trying one if you can get it for a reasonable price en France.
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   #5. Posted at 01:45 PM on Apr 26th 2008 Edit   Reply

This does sounds like dell, its not the first time that reviewers get top of the line displays and the actual units use inferior panels, with no sure way to know if you won the panel lottery until you receive the unit.
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