Comments for: 3DMark Vantage becomes available—at a price

#53. Posted at 12:27 PM on May 2nd 2008, Edited at 12:28 PM on May 2nd 2008

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2x4

this is one ugly looking thing... good thing they have trial version. once you check it out you dont wanna spend your money on that crap

#53, Or just wait for someone to figure out the registry hack tha... : MadManOriginal (#54) «

#54, it's already out there :) : 2x4 (#55) «

#49. Posted at 07:09 AM on Apr 29th 2008, Edited at 07:11 AM on Apr 29th 2008

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MadManOriginal

$7 is very little money but I still wouldn't feel right dishing out anything to run 3DM. Too bad, past 3DM were at least good shows the first few runs and were useful oc stability tests. Do the pay versions at least give you access to full manipulation like resolution and AA settings? If not there's absolutely no way I'd pay for it.

#49, Yes, maybe you should pay a visit to Futuremark's site, or, ... : Meadows (#50) «

#50, Maybe when I have a Vista machine I will :) In one way it... : MadManOriginal (#52) «

#44. Posted at 06:36 PM on Apr 28th 2008

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ludi

Single-use trial per machine, and $495 for the developer-class license, is insane. That's the cost of an Office'07 Pro license, which you can try out for sixty days and which is far more useful than a one-off graphics benchmark. Even AutoDesk will let you try out AutoCad'09 for thirty days.

#44, The $495 version is not one-off. : Meadows (#46) «

#46, It's not once you've paid, but the point is that you only... : Mithent (#47) «

#47, Admittedly, that's an unwelcome change from their prev... : Meadows (#48) «

#46, I was unclear. What I meant is, a benchmark of this type ... : ludi (#51) «

#45. Posted at 07:27 PM on Apr 28th 2008, Edited at 10:01 PM on Apr 28th 2008

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0g1

I dont see how you're supposed to use 3DMark Vantage for profit ... unless they mean they're giving you their source code to their seemingly amazing engine for $495. That'd be pretty cool. I knew lock-free AI multithreading was possible, but this is still very cool.

Edit: oh, now I see, the magazines and websites that use Vantage have to pay $495. No source code is available. Futuremark is just trying to extract as much money as possible from its clients. Unfortunately (or fortunately?), I use XP, so I cant run it anyway.

#26. Posted at 01:11 PM on Apr 28th 2008

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Krogoth

Futuremark has officially shot themselves in the foot. If they keep this up. I expect them to die a quick, painful death.

I cannot honestly see any of the hardcore overclockers ponying up even $4.95 for basic version.

$495 for professional version's non-profit use is purely madness. I rather get a server OS license that can handle at least 16-32 clients for that price.

#26, I thought that was a good business move for the basic versio... : asdsa (#32) «

#26, I think Cyril was thinking non-non-profit, if that makes sen... : MrJP (#33) «

#26, You think that $495 is expensive? Well at least it works the... : TREE (#35) «

#35, The difference is that other software actually does meani... : Krogoth (#43) «

#26, Read the sentence closely and note the double-negative: it s... : alex666 (#38) «

#38, Indeed Kroggie, it says "people who make money with our p... : Meadows (#39) «

#38, that was corrected - I initially pointed out the same typ... : derFunkenstein (#40) «

#3. Posted at 11:04 AM on Apr 28th 2008

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5150

Is 3dMark even relevant anymore?

#3, It has always been. Without it, you can't test the true capab... : Meadows (#5) «

#5, Gotcha, thanks! : 5150 (#12) «

#12, Amusing how every single 3DMark newspost on TR ends up... : Meadows (#14) «

#3, Not really. I use it to demonstrate to friends on how much t... : phez (#13) «

#13, and that's why it will always be relevant. : willyolio (#23) «

#3, Was it ever? : Vrock (#21) «

#21, 3DMark01 was a pretty good benchmark for its time, and ga... : DaveJB (#30) «

#3, It has always been e-peen only. : Saribro (#29) «

#29, 3d mark 2000 and 2001 especially were very nice benchmark... : clone (#31) «

#3, couldn't have said it any better 5150 who really cares! : Vaughn (#42) «

#41. Posted at 05:39 PM on Apr 28th 2008

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Richteralan

Downloaded it
Got a trial key
Ran through once.
meh......

uninstalled.

#1. Posted at 11:00 AM on Apr 28th 2008

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Deli

i don't know anyone that has ever bought Futuremark.......tho that screenshot does look nice.

#1, I was going to say the same thing. Guess I will get to look ... : Shinare (#2) «

#1, I own 3DMark99 and 05. I wanted to have access to more of th... : swaaye (#37) «

#6. Posted at 11:14 AM on Apr 28th 2008

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derFunkenstein

Folks running 3DMark Vantage for non-profit use will have to pay up $495 "per seat" for the Professional Edition.
That has to be a typo.

#6, That's what I thought too. Surely that price must be for pro... : bthylafh (#9) «

#6, http://www.futuremark.com/products/3dmarkvantage/ No. : Meadows (#10) «

#10, That says for business & commercial use. I have to wonder ... : bthylafh (#16) «

#16, I don't know, Tech Report can use the simple Advanced ... : Meadows (#17) «

#17, You'd have to read the licenses agreement to know a... : ew (#18) «

#10, the Futuremark site says nothing about non-profit anythin... : derFunkenstein (#24) «

#24, Non-profits are businesses too. I can't see many non-pr... : Peldor (#27) «

#27, Right, but if Futuremark's site doesn't talk about ... : derFunkenstein (#28) «

#6, That was a typo. It's fixed now, my apologies. : Cyril (#34) «

#34, no problem I was just SO CONFUSED!!! :lol: : derFunkenstein (#36) «

#25. Posted at 01:03 PM on Apr 28th 2008, Edited at 01:11 PM on Apr 28th 2008

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bogbox

What is 3d mark? pictures in Photoshop and few frames . not worth the time or money .

#22. Posted at 12:25 PM on Apr 28th 2008

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pikaporeon

In the computer industry, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and benchmarks.

#20. Posted at 12:12 PM on Apr 28th 2008, Edited at 12:13 PM on Apr 28th 2008

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danny e.

hmm i guess they're trying to see how few of people they can get to use the software.

and i'm one of the "software is software" people who defended "synthetic" benchmarks.

charging for a trial is a little silly.
or course.. dx10 only also leaves out people like me who dont plan to change O/Ss till windows 7.. and the only reason I'm staying with MS at all is because its my job... and with all the bad things MS does.. they make nice development stuff.

hmm.. funny how this turned into an anti-ms rant. yay!

#19. Posted at 11:55 AM on Apr 28th 2008

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doobtribe

Whoever pays that for graphics cards e-penis benchmarks needs to urgently check his own mental health.

#15. Posted at 11:29 AM on Apr 28th 2008

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Meadows

New record reached

While Crysis has held the inverse performance crown for long, we can now declare that 3DMark Vantage provides the officially slowest 3D rendering possible, if we take into account the level of detail shown compared to framerate. Crysis frequently runs faster and frequently looks better.

Fear not, this should mean it's a very good benchmark for comparing videocard performance stats.

#11. Posted at 11:20 AM on Apr 28th 2008

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wingless

Unreal 3 powered games are more relevant as benchmarks since so many PC/XBox360 games use it. Theres no reason any home user should have to buy a Basic version. There are a few hardcore overclockers that use 3DMark06 to prove claims but other than that it is useless. I would rather have an Unreal 3 timedemo or just use Crysis's free benchmarks to test CPU and GPU performance.

Also its a shame ATI and Nvidia actually spend the time to make drivers for this. We need the drivers to work in the damn games we play, not some benchmark that doesn't use a game engine anybody uses. How about ATI fix their World in Conflict performance and Nvidia actually debug their drivers for once?

#4. Posted at 11:06 AM on Apr 28th 2008

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Xenolith

Futuremark doesn't get it, do they. There needs to be a free version.

#4, I agree, it was fantastic to look at the Performance version... : Meadows (#8) «

#7. Posted at 11:15 AM on Apr 28th 2008, Edited at 11:25 AM on Apr 28th 2008

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BKA

I couldn't resist, got the following email and took advantage of it. Can't wait to get home and see how it runs on my x48 CF setup, although I can only image how it will bring it to a crawl.

We have released our latest 3DMarkÂ® Benchmark: 3DMarkÂ® Vantage for Windows Vistaâ„¢. As a current 3DMark06 user, we would like to let you know you may purchase the upgrade version of 3DMark Vantage for a discounted price of $15 (download version):