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   #1. Posted at 05:16 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

So many of the Vista faithful love talking about how many copies of Vista have sold. Why not trumpet the number that were sold with the downgrade to XP? I'm guessing that's a pretty big number. I saw somewhere that Vista is only on less than 3% of corporate machines? I wish I could link to that but I don't know where I saw it... internet statistic FTW.
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   #68. Posted at 01:02 PM on May 11th 2008 Edit   Reply

Many people (like me) don't see a need for Vista and view the upgrade as an unnecessary expense. XP does everything I want it to do and more.
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   #66. Posted at 09:21 PM on May 9th 2008 Edit   Reply

people really should start moving away from xp
i haven't quite yet (waiting on nehalem for comparison before making a move to 64-bit)
haven't even used vista to be honest. i'm generally running fine with xp.

a workmate, who makes custom boxes, complained about vista's speed to me
i suggested he looked for something on vista's 'performance' settings
this of course stemming from xp and it's performance settings options
he tried turning off everything and found it ran a ridiculous amount faster
of course it looked crap so he turned a few things back on to make it look 'pretty'
but basically he now has a new default setup he uses for vista boxes

i haven't mentioned to him about turning off services yet to get memory back
this again something stemming from xp and it's services
probably save it for another time
(then again i have no idea if vista has the services management console)

either way when i upgrade i'll likely give vista a crack as well as ubuntu
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   #25. Posted at 02:03 AM on May 9th 2008 Edit   Reply

Ok I installed Ubuntu 8.04 and am really loving it. Everything seems allot faster and so far I am thinking of staying.
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   #9. Posted at 08:04 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

They have this nice, stable OS, and they refuse to sell it to people. Good god...
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   #37. Posted at 06:16 AM on May 9th 2008 Edit   Reply

It's time to let XP go. After using VIsta it feels antiquated when I have to work on a n XP machine at work. We have Vista loaded in the CIS labs at work and have had only a few minor issues here and there but the deployment process is easier with Vista than XP. Of course that's a benefit your normal user would never use or here about.

What's with the post about how there is no choice of OS when buying a PC at the store. When has there ever been? It's not like when XP or 98 came out it was any different. You couldn't request that Windows 98 or 95 be loaded instead. Technology needs to move forward, just let it go already.

Everyone that's waiting on the next Windows version to be less "bloated" to make the switch then might as well switch to Apple or download your favorite version of Linux now. We all know the next version of Windows will be even more "bloated" and have even steeper system requirements. So whats the difference. Sometimes I believe people have to complain about something, anything.
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   #61. Posted at 10:49 AM on May 9th 2008 Edit   Reply

I'm happily running Vista Business 32-bit at work that came with my Dell machine. Once I was able to get the administrator tools installed and working it's worked like a charm. It's a great step up from XP since I can actually have accelerated video playback on both monitors now. XP will only accelerate the primary monitor.
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   #56. Posted at 08:45 AM on May 9th 2008 Edit   Reply

#47...There are at least several machines in retail, typically the higher-end lappies and towers that feature Vista-64.

I saw several recently at Office Depot...Q6700 tower and a couple of primo lappies.

So, yes, there is availability, but lower-end stuff gets home premium or basic -32.
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   #3. Posted at 06:00 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

How is the 3% corporate presence in the first year of release any different from the delayed implementations of XP from W2K? Hell, all of us in the business know of companies that only recently finished migrating to XP from legacy OSes. I don't see why Vista would be any different, but everyone is conveniently forgetting the trauma many folks had with the first release year of XP and yet treating Vista's changes as if they occurred in a vacuum.

I was hoping we'd have already started our migration to Vista company-wide, but there was a single management and backup application that won't be ready until the fall. So we wait.
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   #53. Posted at 08:31 AM on May 9th 2008 Edit   Reply

Most IT departments rolled out Windows 2000 boxes at an unbelievable pace. In fact we had a IT boom for Windows 2000 migrations. Windows XP less so.

#4, that just proves what I said; namely, that the migration of companies from W2K to XP was not overnight and some outfits have only recently completed that migration. Vista will be no different, since most companies will roll out Vista with new hardware, generally installed on 3-year cycles.

I won't deny I'm biased in favor of Vista, but then again I've been using it on a variety of new and old machines since the public betas were available. I'm not saying it's perfect or that folks even need to upgrade. What I generally tell folks is that Vista brings more positive changes to the user than not, and waiting for Windows 7 is just waiting for the next version of Vista, so you may as well get used to what you're going to be running in the future.
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   #52. Posted at 08:14 AM on May 9th 2008 Edit   Reply

Is this really success, selling Vista for (guessing $30 a copy to OEM builders)?
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   #31. Posted at 03:51 AM on May 9th 2008 Edit   Reply

I've found Vista to be a nice upgrade from XP(which I used daily for 5 years)
It looks better,is more secure and handles home media much better.
It is however too expensive and would have been far better received had it been a $100 upgrade for people with a current XP license.
Still....140 million copies is pretty impressive,hopefully Windows 7, or Vienna or whatever they decide to call it will be at a more reasonable price.
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   #17. Posted at 10:50 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

Yep, the FUD'ers are now eating their crow.
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   #33. Posted at 05:20 AM on May 9th 2008 Edit   Reply

It's not like your average PC buyer has much of an option when they get their PC these days. Apple selling hundreds of millions of iPods is an achievement because that's a decision the consumer had control over. PC makers selling hundreds of millions of PCs, that come with Vista, that's not so impressive for Microsoft. Especially since people are downgrading to XP in many situations anyway.
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   #29. Posted at 03:34 AM on May 9th 2008 Edit   Reply

Meadows said: "I bow to Lord Vista, made my life better."
Camera pans down to Bill Gates giving Meadows oral.
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   #2. Posted at 05:34 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

So no new oem copies from newegg?
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   #5. Posted at 07:56 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

It saddens me that PC buying consumers won't be given a choice come June 30 :(

I have Vista installed on a home PC and it's a mess from all points of view. I wish Apple would release OS X as a Mac free OS.. however that's very unlikely.

Adi
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   #21. Posted at 11:56 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

My parents company has Vista on all the new computers. We don't because managing 179 computers with 1 full-time plus me part-time isn't feasible unless we have a very specific and standard support base. I'd say in about a year we'll probably make the move.
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   #16. Posted at 09:37 PM on May 8th 2008, Edited at 09:50 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

I work in well know independent pc retailer in Australia with a lot of 'ethusiasts' and corporate customers. We have a 'most popular' items list on the front of our website which any one can view.

XP Pro OEM is the fourth most popular item on our website behind harddrives and q6600's. We can list up to 30 items over the last 90 days. Vista is NOWHERE to be seen on this list.

nuf said.
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   #13. Posted at 08:56 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

Let's just hope Microsoft's next OS is nice enough to make the rest of us XP users make the jump.
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   #11. Posted at 08:15 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

this vista thing is out of control. it's like xp users are blacklisted... i'm having issues with my 9800GTX and nvidia doesn't even have a spot for non - vista bugs but i refuse to switch to vista for now.
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   #10. Posted at 08:13 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

For consumers, just buy through Dell Small Business and request the XP downgrade option.
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   #6. Posted at 07:56 PM on May 8th 2008 Edit   Reply

In the coporate world they have restarted their marketing blitz as well, basically their angle is that they accepted the fact that Vista had some major problems but now with SP1 it's a real replacement for XP.
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