Comments for: Nvidia's GeForce 9800 GTX+ appears at $199.99

#21. Posted at 01:56 PM on Jul 23rd 2008

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Prototyped

This is probably the card of choice for Linux users, given that nVidia's driver is still superior to both the open source and fglrx binary drivers for the Radeon HD 2xxx-4xxx series from ATI. (And of course, the fact that the 55 nm chip runs much cooler is another advantage.)

#21, True, the binary Nvidia drivers are miles ahead when it come... : BlackStar (#56) «

#21, How many linux users need this kind of horsepower? ; ] : pikaporeon (#57) «

#8. Posted at 11:51 AM on Jul 23rd 2008, Edited at 01:03 PM on Jul 23rd 2008

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NeronetFi

I want to upgrade my 8800GTS 640. Would the 9800GTX+ be a good investment for performance improvement or should I just stick to original plan to upgrade my entire systems.

Currently running an AMD 4400+ (939) with 2GB of ram.

#8, Upgrade the entire system, and buy an ATI card. : cegras (#47) «

#47, I have always been an Nvidia Fan but these days ATI looks... : NeronetFi (#50) «

#8, I agree, you need to upgrade from that socket 939 motherboar... : aleckermit (#53) «

#53, Ok its settled then. Im upgrading the entire system :) Th... : NeronetFi (#54) «

#8, I'd wait until the next slew of CPUs and GPUs, honestly. 880... : swaaye (#55) «

#4. Posted at 11:37 AM on Jul 23rd 2008

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Krogoth

This product is just meant to fight off the 4850.

The good news is that Nvidia and TSMC buddies got 55nm down and are probably moving to their GTX2xx designs.

The only advantage that it has over 4850 is a better stock cooler. It has similar or slightly inferior performance. Physix support is a moot point since ATI will also get it down the road (Nvidia is afraid of Chipzilla).

Sadly, 9800GTX+ and 9600GT are the only Nvidia products that I would consider these days. 4850's other perks gives it the decisive edge for me ( better driver support, audio over HDMI, Direct 10.1 support)

#4, So you consider ghost features over actual value. How intell... : Meadows (#28) «

#28, Directx 10.1 is not a ghost feature. It is hardly used be... : Krogoth (#30) «

#30, You've effectively described a ghost feature. If nobody... : Meadows (#36) «

#28, Still practicing your partial reading skills I see eh? DX1... : poulpy (#37) «

#37, First of all, I own an 8800 GT. ;) Secondly, I don't re... : Meadows (#38) «

#28, #28, At this point I must somewhat agree DX10.1 is a "sel... : Lans (#39) «

#39, I know that Dx 10.1 games are not coming. That's why. D... : Meadows (#51) «

#51, And I know that DX10.1 game are coming!! :) : DaveBaumann (#52) «

#6. Posted at 11:46 AM on Jul 23rd 2008

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Staypuft

Is there gonna be any sort of quick follow up review or anything to show if move to 55nm gives any real benefit over 65 with same clocks? I'd be interested in seeing it so I can have a clear picture of what to spend my money on in 3 weeks.

#6, Outside of architectural tweaks, there's no inherent perform... : reactorfuel (#48) «

#48, +1 for that post.....you are *hesitates*...on point :) : Fighterpilot (#49) «

#7. Posted at 11:47 AM on Jul 23rd 2008

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maroon1

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_radeon_hd_4850_geforce_9800...
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/731/1/

9800GTX+ performs neck to neck with HD4850.
9800GTX+ might cost more but the advantage of 9800GTX+ is that it have better cooler, and it won't produce as much heat as HD4850

#7, Say what? By all indications the 9800GTX+ produces the same ... : crazybus (#22) «

#22, meant as reply to #7 : flip-mode (#23) «

#22, Did you even check the reviews I posted ? http://www.legit... : maroon1 (#29) «

#29, I see a gpu core temperature comparison, not a heat ou... : crazybus (#40) «

#7, Power consumption = heat. They produce the same amount of he... : flip-mode (#24) «

#24, Power consumption does not equal heat. Wasted power = hea... : PRIME1 (#33) «

#33, OK, so they both waste the same amount of power. : flip-mode (#34) «

#34, The one that puts out the most heat, wastes the mos... : PRIME1 (#45) «

#45, http://techreport.com/articles.x/15105/7 That wou... : crazybus (#46) «

#33, But from a thermodynamic standpoint, all the energy go... : reactorfuel (#35) «

#35, Yes I agree for precision it was the wasted power b... : pogsnet (#44) «

#7, It seems Radeon 4800 series defeats Nvidia GTX in image qual... : Fighterpilot (#41) «

#43. Posted at 10:11 PM on Jul 23rd 2008

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Tarx

NCIX has the 4850 for $149 CDN (no MIR!) (and the 4870 for $249 after $20 MIR) on sale this week (but limited quantity). http://www.ncix.com/promo/promosale.php?webid=xmasjuly08

Perhaps the 9800GTX+ has more room to keep dropping in price?

#42. Posted at 08:36 PM on Jul 23rd 2008, Edited at 08:43 PM on Jul 23rd 2008

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toyota

"The online retailer carries an eVGA GeForce 9800 GTX+ for $199.99, about 30 bucks less than the official $229 price tag."

sorry Cyril but it was already known that the official price would be $199 and not $229 as originally planned. Nvidia made that change a couple weeks ago and even crazy Fudzilla reported it then.

#32. Posted at 03:34 PM on Jul 23rd 2008

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alex666

I've been building systems since 2002 and I can't remember a better time for video cards as far as price-performance goes. Some terrific choices right now, with even SLI and cross-fire very affordable. All hail competition.

#31. Posted at 03:04 PM on Jul 23rd 2008

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Ricardo Dawkins

I love my Radeon!

#10. Posted at 12:13 PM on Jul 23rd 2008

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PRIME1

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-9800-gtx-512mb-plus-review/

Benchmarks show it slightly faster than the 4850 while running cooler.

Combine that with Physx and it's awesome folding power and it's a great card at $199.

The 55nm chip should be a good overclocker as well.

#10, Linking to an offsite card review . . . Prime1 has committed ... : leor (#13) «

#13, Prime1 chooses whatever source agrees with him. Pathetic.... : flip-mode (#14) «

#14, I could also choose to link to your statements about h... : PRIME1 (#17) «

#17, And show how low your reading level is? Post it wit... : flip-mode (#25) «

#13, Well I will be happy to link to TR's GTX+ review when it ... : PRIME1 (#16) «

#16, It's been out since a while, imitated with a 9800 GTX ... : Meadows (#27) «

#10, Yaaay... crappy drivers, higher power consumption, and restr... : A_Pickle (#18) «

#10, And the Radeon 4850 is, what, 169.99 now? : cegras (#26) «

#1. Posted at 11:08 AM on Jul 23rd 2008

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curls

Gotta love competition...

#1, Yeah this is an absolute bloodbath. I have been an nVidia bu... : tay (#2) «

#2, Yeah it's all good for the consumer but a $199 9800GTX+ i... : poulpy (#3) «

#3, Yeah, exactly... a 9800GTX+ or a 9800GTX at GTX+ speed... : continuum (#19) «

#2, I switched to a 4870 and I crapped my pants. Its unbeliev... : wingless (#5) «

#5, I switched to a 4870 and I crapped my pants. Is that su... : bthylafh (#12) «

#12, LOL on the comment : NeronetFi (#20) «

#15. Posted at 12:58 PM on Jul 23rd 2008

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NarwhaleAu

The 9800GTX+ needs to be at $160 (with mail in rebates) NOW to be competitive.

If the 4870 moves much below the $260 is it selling for, it will be worth the extra cash to get a big boost in performance.

#11. Posted at 12:18 PM on Jul 23rd 2008

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homerdog

The original, 65nm G92 powers not only the 9800 GTX, but also GeForce 8800 GT, 8800 GTS 512MB, and 9800 GX2 offerings.
Don't forget the 8800GS and the 9600GSO ;)

#9. Posted at 11:59 AM on Jul 23rd 2008, Edited at 12:02 PM on Jul 23rd 2008

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CapnBiggles

From what I hear, the GTX2xx 55nm designs will be revealed soon at nvision. So nvidia seems to really be trying to gear up now that this is being pushed out fully.

I love this competition, I hope it keeps.