I agree with ssidbroadcast. 9500 is basically a GF8600, a card already half as fast as a $95-110 9600GT. If you really want to game, just go for the ~$100 9600GT because it will be so much faster. Definitely more value for your buck.

If you don't game or just play older 3D games, 9500 is still a waste of money because it adds little value over something like a $20 Radeon 3450, GF8500, or even the latest IGPs.

The 8600/9500 performance level was more interesting before Radeon 38x0 and GF9600 reached the $100 mark. At this point it's just another supposed segment that the companies want to fill. IMO you're just wasting money by not saving up for the faster card that gives more bang per buck.

Nvidia's hemorrhaging money, and this stuff isn't helping. What are they doing, trying to look sloppy?

Confusing product lines, variation galore, nominal-fake upgrades (9600GSO? 9800GT?)...

I think I'll go ATI this time around.

pcperspective shows the 9500 getting beat by the 8600gts. But for the life of me, if I was going to spend $70 on a video card, I'd go the extra $30 and get the HD3850 or 9600GT.

As for the 8800gt 9800gt exercise in rebranding, it seems monumentally ridiculous to me, not to mention a tad dishonest. Edit, it should have been called the 9800GT from the beginning.

I'm just gonna wait till...

9800GTS 320
9800GTS 512
9800GTS 640

9900GS
9900GT

No one will know which is best... muhahahaha.

With my 8800GT (sarcastically)
flash the bios to a 9800GT and slap a new sticker on it, nice Nvidia!

This is getting too confusing... im buying ATI

Don't forget.... It does NOT require the cost and labor of a 400w or 500w power supply. The reviewers tend to miss this point. If you add that expense and inconvenience of doing surgery on your pc this things a winner. 8600GTS level performance and it can just be snapped into the pci x16 slot with no addittional power connector needed.

Is it a rerelease of the 8600?

hows the 9500 GT compare specwise with the 8600GT

I can't even think of a product line with equil useless complexity to throw out there as a joke. I fail.

This is too confusing, im getting ATI. because atleat ill know what im getting.

Great, EVEN MORE variations that make no sense!

And 8800GS/9600GSOs are STILL better and the same price, or even cheaper, than many other options, no matter what they keep changing and adding. Aside from the 8800GTS 512MB, which no longer serves any real purpose, I think that's the only one that isn't being replaced at the moment, although it was arbitrarily renamed. I'm wondering if they'll just throw it out, seeing as their "new" budget variations are consistently inferior.

Too bad it's going to be so long until the lower end Radeon 4000s come out. Nvidia is taking advantage of a window that was unfortunately left wide open for them.

Down with 128-bit, 32 stream GPUs. Waste. Of. Money.