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masaki |
They really need a dual core product a long time ago. K8 Athlon is just too old to fight Core 2. K10 should be much better. 65nm K10.5 true dual core BE with IPC improvements made to Deneb is what I am thinking. Is that too big?
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axeman |
I call bunk. An 65nm X2 is only a 65watt thermal envelope chip even at 2.9Ghz. No way a dual core Phenom is going to spec at 95watts. 95 watts right now gets you 4x2.2ghz cores from AMD. This is probably just some made up BS.
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Kent_dieGo |
If a quad core die has two bad cores it is time to throw it away. Could you really trust it? The X3 processors were poor performers since if one core was bad, the rest were not that good either.
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rivieracadman |
#7 - The Phenom cores are better then the K8 cores colck for clock. They have an improved memory controler that can handle not only L3 cache, but 400Mhz HT, and they have the advanced power mgt and SSE4a. It doesn't make sense scaling an older design unless it has specific value. K10 is simply an improved K8, so they just have to run with it.
On the other hand, we'll probably see K8 in 45nm and say 25 watt or less hacking away at some of the Atom markets. Provided AMD does anything before fusion, or in parralel. |
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Anonymous Coward |
This can't be right. They already have a perfectly fine 65nm dual core, which made it to 3.1ghz @ 89W a while back. What they need is a 45nm dual core to shave off some of those watts and dollars.
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Saribro |
Well, I think this might explain a processor I've seen pop up but can't actually find on amdcompare.com
http://tones.be/shop_product.php?idx=105769 "AMD Athlon 64 X2 6500+ Black Edition, 2,3 GHz, Socket AM2, 3MB Cache, 95W Boxed with cooler AD6500WCGHBOX" I was wondering whether that could actually be a dual core phenom. |
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MadManOriginal |
The process node makes sense if AMD wants to make Phenoms instead of A64 X2's at their 65nm fabs.
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flip-mode |
However, Expreview says AMD will manufacture them using 65nm process technology, and both models will have 95W thermal envelopes. This claim sounds a tad implausible, although AMD has made some strange moves in the past.
Yes, it doesn't seem to make much sense, and that indicates that this is more than just rumor. This is AMD we're talking about. |