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Anomymous Gerbil |
How do BIOS settings fix issues deep within the CPU like that?
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Pachyuromys |
Three things come to mind:
1) In his initial reply, PR Manager (Public Relations manager?? Any reply from a spin doctor as opposed to an engineer, who actually knows something about it, means they want to make sure something gets covered up or glossed over.) Snyder only refers to some "previous document. Three times, in fact. This substanceless doubletalk is the kind of empty hot air typical of any PR statement. 2) Neither his initial reply to TR nor the supposedly "clearer" follow-up gives any real information about the bug, what steps were taken to "fix" (translation: work around) the bug, and what impact this BIOS patch has on performance (a la the huge hit the TLB patch had on Phenoms). The only thing "clear" about this statement is they don't want to say anything that will send their stock plummeting. 3) Since TR's (and other major review sites') Core i7 review is based on pre-launch engineering samples, we can only wonder how much the BIOS "fix" affects actual retail products. |
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Forge |
No, three years ago and change Intel explained the penalties involved in breaking my three year term NDA.
Telling you that the Prescott was a stinking dog, and my P4 560 3.6GHz Preshott benched out lower than my 2.8C Northwood in many cases would result in immediate and improper usage of the following: Blowtorch 3 pair Pliers 1 Ball peen hammer 1 Deadblow hammer 6 2x4" pieces of pressure treated lumber 1 propane blowtorch 1 medieval 'pear' and optionally, at the discretion of the Intel rep; THE BRAZEN BULL. Edit: When I started typing this would have been #3. It's in reply to #1. |
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Auril4 |
Just remember, when a site like this is heavily sponsored by a manufacturer such as Intel, there is a good chance that the objectivity of an article like this will be 'slightly' skewed.
It might even be 'Intel approved' |
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sdack |
The old, slow paper press had several advantages:
1) It was great for swatting flies. 2) One could wrap fish in it. 3) There was always a chance for a rumor not to go into an edition, because a press was already running, and if over night the rumor died off then nobody would ever know about it. |
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poulpy |
"For reference, the AMD TLB erratum caused data corruption and system hangs in periods of high CPU utilization, and AMD halted shipments of quad-core Opterons for months because of it."
AFAIK for reference the Phenom bug was only reproducible in periods of high CPU utilization while running several virtual machines at the same time! Which made it more of a witch hunt and bad PR than something any lambda user (and probably most servers) would experience IMO. |
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bogbox |
This is the diffrence between Intel and AMD : Intel PR is much better than AMD PR.
Even if there is a problem Intel will never say is a problem, nor change the name to include a "fix", like AMD. Intel will send to MS the problem specification and fix. as well to motherboard makers the bios fix. But the consumers not need to know about it. |
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Fighterpilot |
I love it when Jumpin Jack pops in and lays a badass answer on someone.
Always the facts and good info...nice one Jack. |
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crazybus |
Wow, the the journalistic and technical incompetence displayed at Fudzilla reminds me why I don't go there.
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Mr Bill |
Stirring, I know. But wasn't the Phenom TLB problem also taken care of with a bios fix?
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ssidbroadcast |
The reporter who wrote this did not contact us and we will try to clarify this with him.
and by "clarify" we mean beat him about the head and shoulders. |
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A loser named Pluscard is linking to this over on the Yahoo! AMD message board.
I feel sorry for Pluscard. He was buying more and more AMD as the share price increased to 42. He called the bottom every .25 as it dropped, including buying more shares on MARGIN at almost 7! The margin calls wiped him out, and sometimes he will even admit to losing all his AMD on margin calls.
He said Intel Core 2 Duo demos were faked by Intel, that shipping silicon would never have that kind of performance. He pretends AMD is "cash flow positive" when they lose billions, he pretends that AMD's billions in ATI writedowns are meaningless.
He believed AMD's promise of Phenom having 40% better performance hook, line and sinker. He also made excuses for AMD SIMULATED PHENOM BENCHMARKS of 2.8 and 3Ghz chips. He said Intel going to 45nm was a mistake and AMD would be wise to not follow. He said Intel's hafnium transistor breakthrough was nothing of any iimportance.
The guy is a total IDIOT and should be shunned by all.
If you value your portfolio, listen to Pluscard, then do the opposite. The harder Pluscard pumps AMD, the more you should short.