Originally Posted by Karahaj
This isn\'t as bad as most of you think...... it does reside on the drive as data right? well, what happens when all of a sudden the hard drive has \"bad sectors\"? what about a low-level format.....brute force has always been the biggest ways of cracking anything, i think the same thing, if it does get implemented, will happen here.....

Originally Posted by Sleepstalker
Well I\'m not suprised that once again the money grubbing little technogeeks have once again come up with a plan that is both unrealistic and antagonistic. Big Blue would be cutting their own throats by going with this scheme I suppose all the stats collected over lost revenue due to (PIRACY) has them running scared and stupid. the lost revenue generated by the mass exodus of clockers , tinkerers , appz collectors , and the slow bitter death of the pc as we know it would surpass any (STATS) dreamed of by our Big Brother.
I do have faith in the denizens of the ether to overcome whatever gets shoved down our throats to take it , break it , crack it , and shove it back somewhere else . Technology hence information should be free.....later..Da Sleepster....

Oh yeah, indeego, where ya gonna put your CD/DVD drives? I'm talking about having eight RAID ports on my RAID card alone. I have the HPT370 for four more RAID'ed ports, plus the two twodrive ports on the 686A.

Theoretically, I could easily build a 16x20Gb storage group on the 3ware RAID, a 4x20Gb RAID on the HPT370, plus 4 software RAIDed 20Gb'ers on the 686A... Minus the 8 drives I have now, I'd need to drop, ummm, 1600$ on 16 drives, but then I'd have 24x20Gb, or 480Gb, just shy of half a Terabyte of non-copy protected storage. Go figure up what 8 80Gb drives would run. Probably a little over 1600$.

Of course, if 80Gb drives by a company worth buying from (NOT Maxtor) are approaching or under 200$, I could go that route instead... 24x80Gb? Anyone? 1.92Tb.

That would be schweet.... :)

Well, yeah, indeego, but the 20Gb drives are falling under 100$ now, and 80Gb drives won't reach that 'sweet-spot' of pricing for quite some time. I'm talking about throwing this array together *NOW*.

Also, somebody said something about 'another great reason to switch to SCSI'... Did you not read the article? This copy protection BS is going into the newer SCSI drives, too!!!

We've got to kill this shit NOW!! If we wait till the specification is finalized, it'll be too late!!

A7V= 80x 8 channels=640Gigs? (4@ATA100)
USB 2, 1000's of gig's, pretty much.

Funny thing is: Both Athlon Thunderbird and Duron have PSNs. P4 *DOES* have a PSN, it's just almost impossible to read back. I will *NEVER* in my life submit to something so dumbassed as a copy protection enabled hard disk. Screw that noise. I'll just build up my RAID with 7200rpm 20.5Gb WD drives till it maxes out. (8 ports x 2 drives each = 320Gb)

Well come to think of it Intel did put a serial number in the P3 and there was so much protest, both in the form of activism and boycott, that Intel did an about-face and made the serial number optional via the bios (but it was still in the chip). It is my understanding that they quietly eliminated it altogether in the P4 design.

It is most likely that a similar reaction would occur to this HD tech.

I think that in the near future, the entire world will be internet linked in someway. Therefore it would be possible to do some type of tracking as they describe. I can think of something that does this now that everyone has heard of. Quake3. Now I know it is a very simple little key that it uses, but it does work in a sense that it prevents people jumping to online games without finding a valid cdkey that will work online. I heard a long time ago that intel was going to put something in the P3 chip that would allow internet tracking.. I don't think that happened did it?

What about non-internet enabled PC's?

Who does this authentication again?

What central Database could handle something on the fly like this?

Why do they think this can't be cracked like everything else. Yes, everything has been cracked or subsided, just a matter of time.

Privacy rights?

Why would IBM come up with this? They are the shit and usually are pretty cool on privacy rights.

I'd rather guy 10G of RAM and just run a RAM drive that do this... It's getting cheaper by the minute.

Coindidence?

I think the market reaction to this would be too string. Everyone would fight and scrap for the last of the unprotected drives and drive the price sky high. At that point SCSI might be a viable alternative from a price standpoint. At any rate, some company will see the market oppertunity and re-introduce protection free drives that will sell like mad. Yeah capitalism!

And the scheme would have to be air-tight, or it'd get busted open like a rock-filled pinata in a crack house.

No scheme is air tight. Name one product that a lot of people use, but has a copy protection scheme that has NOT been cracked.

Consumer products that have been cracked:
Sony Playstation
DVD CSS
Smart Cards (yes, and they don't even have widespread use in the USA)
Credit Cards
SDMI
All software with copy protection schemes
All the Instant Messenger protocals

I am sure someone, somewhere will figure out how to disable this crap. That is, if it doesn't die a premature death.

One other thing, the Register always sensationalizes.

Well, this would be another very compelling reason to switch to SCSI...

umm, reminds me of OPTi or ELANTEC or another one of those CD-RW chips design companies that just announced some time ago that they'll introduce a new chip that won'T allow the CD-RW drive to copy certain "restricted' cds...

and now this crap... just like the copy protection they embeeded in the one of those digital flat panel interfaces... pathetic...

ata100 might be the last of the free IDEs

greets

Originally Posted by dim-
All I can say is this. ( A favorite quote from PCU )

\"Blow me where the pampers is!\"

I\'ll go down swinging.

Originally Posted by AdamLongWalker
This is Bad...... I can see a massive headache on the horizon.