u need to look at "revolution" - new pc game from funsoft

Carmacks a fuckin genious bitch!!!

U tell me someone else who can code a 3d engine as good as him!!!

Eat Shit cuz Carmack is GOD, he's the only one really moving 4ward, wot wiv the bumpmapping, lighting and everythin

Disco #40 Total Concurrance regarding Half-life. That game rulez the FPS genre IMHO. The graphics and sound and suspense all made for a total immersion. Not saying that more recent titles haven't been fun too, but nothing, and I mean *nothing*, has touched HL yet. Lets hope that DoomIII can do it, I really want that experience again. Like Barney always says, "I just hope theres a beer waiting at the end of all this for us..."

Wonderful proof that most pirates are incapable of producing something of value themselves.

So a creator has no legal right to something he creates? I pity God.

Dog poop.

Bah deez.

because the creator has no legal right to it...

It's not pirating if ... <fill in the blank with your favorite reason>.

It is pirating if you are the creator and someone is making a copy of your creation without your permission. Check your reason above and explain why your reason is better than the creator's reason.

AG42: Hipocrisy is a wonderful thing, the world wouldn't be able to run without it... :-)

Oh, and because no-one loses money on a leaked version, unlike a pirated game, in fact, if the game is good, then the leaked version will improve profits...

anyways, enough rantings about philosophical crap, I'm tired,
IntelMole

its not pirating when theres no way to make money from it, and its not even a registered product.

Originally Posted by Trident Troll
If you want zombie combat, the best game for you is Halo. Bungie magically stumbled upon the perfect zombie fighting gameplay without really intending to. I doubt anything in Doom 3 can match up with The Library levels in Halo.

How many people here have no problem playing a "leaked" version of Doom III, but will jump down the throats of anyone they suspect of pirating software or music?

disco - There are more than just the two zombies, even in just this alpha leak. I can think of three other models I saw, just off the top of my head... Figure in that the equivilent Quake3 test/leak had exactly one model, and it bodes well for variety.

Originally Posted by disco
While I haven\'t played the \'leak\', I have viewed the images. Although they do look pretty sharp, the idea of being pursued by the same 2 zombies (fat and skinny) over and over again through shadows (uber high-tech future, but no bloody flashlight!? - not exactly \'realistic\') doesn\'t hold a lot of appeal for me. I\'ve been replaying Half-life over the past month, and I have to say that that game is totally amazing! You forget about the details over the years, but I think it is still better than any other game I have played. Even though the graphics are somewhat dated - they aren\'t actually all that bad. And the details are amazing. You turn on some reactor in a level, and then all the maps on the walls are updated with lights indicating that the reactor is active - totally immersive. In spite of all the details, the game is also very long. I could go on and on about it, but I think that anyone who enjoys fps games should go back and dig their half-life disc off the shelf and try it again. The only strike against half-life is the overuse of certain models (ie keep meeting the same scientist over and over again!). Let\'s hope that Doom3 will avoid that same \'problem\' and not get too caught up in just the fancy effects.

disco

droopy1592, number one I was not flaming you. I am just sick of hearing people complain about alpha leaks and how this game (or any leaked alpha) is unimpressive. So you are unimpressed about the game play for the leaked alpha, well wow no kidding, there is a reason why this is called a ALPHA not final or even beta. Hell I am unimpressed with just about everything in the leak, even the graphics. All I am trying to say is that basing an opinion on a game that is unreleased is pretty pointless. It's like all the people who are doing benchmarks on the damn thing, POINTLESS. I know that you are entitled to your opinion, well so am I. If you think that I am flaming, well I guess you need to put on your flame resistant vest or something. bah

i now realize that, that was a shameless plug,but owell,TENEBRAE RULES. well only if you really enjoyed Q1 and actually want something like this :P

Originally Posted by zenith
Hey ladies and gents(no not you),if you want to get a taste of those shadows and the bumpmapping in Q1,go get TeneBrae,its this SICK ASS Q1 mod that gives full vertex/pixel shading,full dynamic shadows just about every where (yes everywhere) and even comes with extra bumpmapping textures and all that cool crap( i mean COOL..........do i sound like a ad or what?) you can find teh mod here: http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/ (suprised its not at planetquake? i was too) you MUST check it out,they are even working on upping the models as well as textures (its not doom but hey,it gives Q1 a doom3\'ish look,seriously)

Originally Posted by zenith
looks at boxen,still to weak to play doom3

Since they can choose whether or not an alpha-transparency texture casts shadows (I believe, not 100% on that), it seems that for performance reasons they don't have things like the chain-link barrier in the first map casting shadows. Just a nitpick, but I demand full realism at the cost of performance, dammit.

doggy poop, I'm entitled to my opinion. It's not like I said it was a mound of shit. NO, I just said I was unimpressed. Alpha or no alpha, I'm not impressed. That's gameplay, when it comes to graphics, there's none better. Not being impressed doesn't mean it won't be a good game. I guess I'm not happy anymore unless I'm getting mowed down by someone or sniped from afar by someone sitting in their 9-year old leather office chair on their bedroom computer, or even if their armies aren't running over my newb team mate that didn't produce any troops.

I wasn't impressed by alphas for Doom3 or UT2k3, which both are/will be good games. The leaked a/b for warcraft was lovely, if unbalanced. Point is, graphics don't always make the game. When the game comes out and blows my mind with interactivity and realistic effects (that actually become a part of the game), my jaw will drop to the floor, but until then, I'm unimpressed.

Just like music, there are a lot of crap games out these days, so I like to spend the cash on the really good ones. Wait for my final impression once the game is released, then flame.

I like it. It's pretty. :)

Seriously, though, those shadows are holy Moses hot stuff. EVERYTHING casts a shadow, and ANYTHING's shadow can interact with ANY surface!!!

That's a whole Hell of a lot of calculation!

The bumpmapping is very pretty, too, but those shadows are what get me going.

Coldfirex - Wow, hadn't even noticed that. I wonder if we can compress them....

Originally Posted by vers. 3.1
Runs slow eh?

About TIME there was some software out there that pushes me to spend my hard earned donaro on a few new components.

Forge, Valium eaten much better now. I was just commenting on your unoptimized sound engine comment. The post was more for droopy1592 than you but I just went out of control and added you to the post. I have just been reading all the comments on other sites as well as this one on the D3 performance "issues" and like I said I went a little crazy, sigh...

Since all the sounds are in wav format, I would think that might be at least one of the reasons this thing is pretty big and a little slow.

You really ought to learn how to bash.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/covers/bash.s.gif

Forge: please stop bashing me.
i mean.. if you keep bashing me i might take it personal.

hehe

- danny e.

d0g_p00p - Tkae your Valium, man. I haven't said a single thing all day to bash D3. I'm just noting that the sound engine seems to cause the stuttering, and I mention a way to work around it... Where am I bashing?

droopy1592 and Forge. Please stop bitching, it's a fucking alpha for gods sake. This is why I hate it when alpha's or beta's get released. People do have a first impression and if it does not fit the hype then the bitching starts. Have any of you played the early offical releases of Quake 1 & 2? They were horrible compared to the final versions. Hell when I got the U2K3 leak, I knew that it was not a final indication of the final release performance wise, same thing here. Bleh I am just in a bad mood and I hate reading about people bitching and moaning about alpha releases.

Damn I take it the Xp 1600, GF4 ti 4200 I am building for cheap won't handle this. :(

Originally Posted by Trident Troll
If anybody is interested, I found the leaked alpha for Mechwarrior 5 at this website:

http://www.itsstilltheft.com