Ok so i've read everything and I'm not partial to anyone. I am however a close friend of some people at XFX and here's what I've gathered to fill in any of your doubts. BFG and EVGA both do not cover overclocking. BFG states it on thier warranty page and while EVGA doesn't say it out right, try giving them a call, they will tell you the same and state that falls under physical damage, overclocking to them is burning and burning is certainly not a metaphysical or spiritual damage right?

Let's think about this for a minute. Suppose you sell me a car right and I put in 150 octane rocket fuel becasue I want to race it and the engine blows up. Should you replace it, even though the car was design to work optimally at 87+ octane? They all have a right to cover your card as it was sold to you just as you sold me the car expecting me to put in the recommended fuel right?

shipping? read the fine print on EVGA and BFG they all charge shipping to their location but all of them including shipping free back to the customer.

Replace or repair? None of them EVGA, BFG, or XFX will replace the card if it has been modified. end of story on that point.

Damage upon installation? well if you put it in and it doesn't work that is not your fault, if you put it in, spilled water on it and there is visible water shortage burns that are easily identifiable then they will know. If you tried to cram it into a AGP slot, they will know. that is your fault.

Damage by incompatibility? Well that is not just XFX, everyone says that including BFG and EVGA. and generally windows and basic programs won't do that. If you know anything about computers. What they are talking about is suppose you tweak the BUS interface voltage capacitor or run something that actually rewrites the firmware, well, that's not their fault and when you run programs like that the motherboard manuals will tell you the consequences in very small print somewhere in their manuals.

Cards overclocked by default are covered as they are, they were designed to be overclocked and those specific models have features that support overclocking like strong PCB, or heatsink materials and quality. For example look at the 490MHZ, sure it's overclocked but it will run smoothly at 490, if it breaks they will give you another 490. but I've pushed my 490s with water up to 535MHZ so I understand the consequences that if it breaks it was becasue I overclocked an overclocked card beyond what it was optimally set at, at the point of sale.

Physical damage during transport is a given by everyone, if you through the card into a number 9 envelop and scotch tape it and expect it to arrive working then think again. Just use your brain when you transport it, use magnetic shield bags, use foam on top of that, in a secure box. Makes sense doesn't it? Back to the car scenario so you sold me the car and when I sent it to you to be fix, I drove it 200 miles on rims alone. will you give me new rims and tires, maybe a new axle, CV boot, some paint work?

I suggest you all read the fine print of every brand and really know what is going on. Maybe even call all of them and propose some scenarios to them to see how they respond to it.

The case in point above all this is that I asked my friend at XFX how the came up with the warranty details. Well they just looked at everything that BFG and EVGA were offering and matched it exactly and then on top of that add the transferability which no one else offered. so by all points they are identical to everyone but on top of that you get the double lifetime. Overall it's a costly venture to XFX that is why they only implimented it in the US to see how people react to it and they said they are willing to meet the needs of the consumers here. if it was a lie and at no cost to them they would have implimented it globally with out question.

I hope that clears some of the air, if you have questions feel free to post them and I will see if I can contact my friend for answers.

How would they know whether you're the 1st, 2nd, or 99th owner anyway?

"Double Lifetime" coverage?

Just in case we dont die? Ressurection is great, but there was only one use per eternity. I wouldnt mind living twice.

Hopefully this company wont be as successful as, lets say, 3dfx?

How about a memory that's three years old: On October 14, 2002 I bought an XFX GeForce Ti 4200. It overclocked stably to within 10 or 20 MHz of a 4600 right out of the box. It still gets used everyday with an aftermarket passive cooler attached to it.

It's rare that a company changes its ways. But I suspect this one has. They've had at least three years to trash the XFX brand's reputation. Given the irrational hatred on display, had they done so someone would have posted much vitriol about it in this thread already. I'll take the lack thereof as anecdotal evidence that they have changed.

Good job XFX.

LOL I was expecting to read positive comments about XFX at least moving in the right direciton. Instead I see 18 comments dumping on them. *I* wouldn't give you a warranty based on your ungrateful comments.

Sure, it's not perfect, but it's a step in the right direction and XFX should be praised for that.

I dont know about you guys, but the new eVGA lifetime warranty kicks this XFX warranty in the bean-bag. eVGA will replace your card, no matter what, as long as there is no PHYSICAL damage to the card. This includes OC'ing untill it dies. I also imagine that if it errupts into flames for some reason, they would be reasonable enough to accept it. But dont run over it with you car.

If I actually expected a Full and Actual lifetime warranty, I'd expect them to replace any non-operation card of their branding from specific sets of series, without question or reason.

Considering the terms in which you can void the warranty, and the required registration, I wouldn't even call this a basic warranty.

Fsck you XFX.

There are a lot of things that aren't really appealing about this "warranty," but if they are going to make all of these exceptions why can't they at least pay for shipping?

XFX rocks! the GTX card I have comes factory overclocked 490/1300 -- I put a water block on it and am now at 530/1350 w/o raising voltage or using a hacked bios. Definity speed binned all for $535 (probably cheaper now) ...obviously I void my warranty on everything I own so this is really immaterial.

If you guy concerned, and plan to run stock, check out BFG-- never heard one complaint on-line.

I dont understand how some ppl can say that certain brands are junk cards and other are "teh l33t!" when all the initial runs are made by nvidia and all these companies do is put their stickers on them. Even later in product cycles most of the smaller companies get their cards from the bigger ones. I havent seen where BFG owns any PCB manufacturing plants in taiwan or china, i would guess they are consignments from asus, gigabyte, or msi.

I'd love to see Newegg's data for product returns. Then we'd find out who builds quality, and who builds junk. The only information I've ever found along these lines indicates BFG, ATI, Asus and Gigabyte are the quality constructors of vid cards.

We need a Consumer's Report for computer parts. Thing is, it will have to be funded by subscription like Consumer's is, because it will never get any advertising, and will be hated and attacked by the manufacturers.

Additionally, secondary owners may be charged for any parts needed for a repair.

Does that mean if a card is unrepairable they charge you for a new one or what?

Pine has been around forever. Assuming they're still doing well, you can expect them to be around for a long time.

"Additionally, secondary owners may be charged for any parts needed for a repair."

That isn't a warranty, that is a Bully pounding you in the back after you turned around, knocking the air out of you, and you gasp for a sweet, sweet breath.