So Intel has finally seen the light and will now copy AMD pretty much across the board...shorter pipelines....64 bit OS support for the desktop...lower power requirements than those power plant killing Prescotts...all thats left is the on die memory controller and Intel can make chips in the same fab as AMD....

If this is as much better than the P4 as the P4 was better than the P3 AMD will have a field day.

This better be better than that or we'll have to live with the boring AMD64's for a long time.

if is better than pentium M performance per watt + em64t technology then it will be better than the current athlon 64

"...support an array of Intel technologies, including 64-bit EM64T compatibility..."

I guess inventing a name for it made it an Intel technology?

I wonder how much general purpose code would actually be able to utilise a 4-issue chip with any degree of usefulness

guess it falls to the compiler :/

Previously, Intel flat out DENIED that the next generation Pentium would be based on the Pentium M. I have been having a hard time finding any news articles from earlier this year, but I did find this on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_M#Merom

Merom

Intel expects to launch the Merom core in the third quarter of 2006. Merom will support the EM64T instruction set, and will serve as the basis for a new desktop core, codenamed Conroe. It is said to use a new microarchitecture different from the existing Pentium M and Pentium 4 processors. Intel has hinted that Merom's design, like that of the Pentium M, places emphasis on both high performance and low power consumption.

DRM enforcer CPUs!

The new CPUs all contain LaGrande, meaning Trusted Computing enforcement embedded in all of the new CPUs. It is designed to secure your computer against you. Designed to key crypto keys secure against you. The CPU is even designed to SELF DESTRUCT if you attempt to read out your keys. It's all pretty damn evil.

I forgot to ask: intel...umm new socket for this ?

So all Intel has to do is say what their plans are and people are already declaring them the victor and relegating AMD to the bargain bin? C'mon ... there's a big difference between announcing a product and actually launching it. Wait till it comes out and the benchmarks are in before you pass judgement. I remember when people were saying that Prescott was going to destroy AMD and then Tejas was going to be even better. We all know how that turned out.

I hope AMD will introduce something competitive.

Things will look interesting indeed. Finally time Intel came back to the fight with something better than a shout and pink glasses.

Its been two years since the last time Intel had anything worthwhile, and it wasn't this good. I'll build my new PC with this next year. :)

Hey guys just thought I'd chime in here. Intel's metioning of "memory disambiguation" is probably a reference to perhaps the work Intel has done with regard to FB-DIMM technology? Just a thought....

And herein lies exactly why I feel even staunch intel supporters should back AMD, competition made these processors, and they should be damn good because of it.

I hope amd responds with quad core!

Could somebody who knows what they're talking about say a few words (or provide a few links) regarding the efficiency of trying to excecute four instructions in parallel? Can that much parallelism be extracted from code that was not explicitly written to be parallel? Also, what's the difference in transistor count between a four-issue processor and a three-issue processor? Is it large enough for there to be a tradeoff between thread level parallelsim instead of instruction level parallelism? That is, could AMD make a three core chip that issues three instructions at a time in the same space that Intel can make a dual core with 4 instructions at a time, or is the tradeoff not that severe?

OMG it's the P7 that never was....and it's dual core.

So Intel is basically telling us wait like 12 months to buy any of their PC's?

Fine.

So no integrated memory controller?

I heard rumors AMD was going to integrate the PCI-E stuff onto the die; Intel still isn't going for this type of approach?

makes me want to hold off my laptop purchase even longer :-/

I wonder what AMD will have out by them, probably make this Intel offering look lame I would bet, but I doubt AMD will switch to the smaller processes as quickly so performance per watt will not be as good.

Wow, 65nm, that is tiny.

-LS

Update: We now have more details about the new architecture in a separate story.

It sends me back to that story.. ?

Edit: nm, I was confused